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My 12,500 service

Discussion in 'Model S' started by cinergi, Jun 25, 2013.

  1. cinergi

    cinergi Active Member

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    Got my car through the 12,500 service today, plus a couple items I needed to have looked at... there were quite a few TSB items. In all, 17 items combined.

    1) 12k service (incl tire rotation, FOB batteries, wiper blades)
    2) Rolling driver's side window down made a scraping noise -- door handle shield got loose inside the door
    3) HVAC filter replaced, debris from blower cleared
    4) TSB - TPMS threshold lowered (I was getting a warning exactly 18 minutes into driving, every time)
    5) New HPWC fuses that can handle 80 amp sustained use (I'll install them)
    6) TSB - Liftgate water ingress (causing water in taillights) -- reseal butyl
    7) TSB - Liftgate water ingress (different than 6; I forget where water could come in) -- redo applique tape
    8) TSB - Have storage tray? Check -- no action
    9) TSB - rotate HVAC clamp (reduce HVAC noise)
    10) TSB - replace hvac pressure sensor seals with new model (could cause refrig leaks)
    11) TSB - HVAC bracket and harness reroute (similar to, but different than #9)
    12) TSB - Have rear skid bar? check -- no action
    13) TSB - rear axle nut washers replaced
    14) TSB - UMC replacement? Not needed
    15) TSB - replace front mats; install rear mats
    16) TSB - PSRCM calibration update (something to do with airbag I believe)
    17) TSB - new J1772 adapter

    Note that the HVAC noise is still there and still considerable. It's normal right now to be loud. Mine was a little extra loud (especially in the cabin) -- this helped a LITTLE.

    I drove a loaner Model S -- VIN 11,--- with about 1000 miles on it. It's a LOT more solid/stiff than my car. The HVAC is just as loud. It doesn't have the drive inverter electrical noise that mine does, so I'll see if there's something that can be done about that. It's quite noticeable (embarrassing really) with windows down and passing by anything that reflects sound. I wonder what it sounds like to pedestrians.
    I wonder if the loaner felt more solid because it's a better factory build or if it's 'cuz it's so new (doesn't have the wear and tear on it) ...
     
  2. DaveT

    DaveT Searcher of green pastures

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    What does the drive inverter electrical noise sound like? Is this common?
     
  3. Lloyd

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    Did they not do the front vent conversion for fogging on the front and side windows?
     
  4. cinergi

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    It's hard to describe but to me it's clearly an AC electrical noise that varies proportionally with the accelerator. Easily heard at 20 MPH with an input power of between about 5 kW and 20 kW. It can't be heard at 0 MPH so it's tough to record and post here.

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    Didn't even think of that. It's not in the receipt and I didn't notice a change in that area when I drove home (though I wouldn't be surprised if my dumb arse missed it :smile:) -- I'll ask, because it did cause me problems a couple times this past winter.
     
  5. Liz G

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    I think the whine only really occurs with the performance. In my S85 I never really hear any whine. But in the loaner P85 I had, while I got my 12,500 service last week, had a very noticible whine when accelerating. Didn't even have to punch it that hard.
     
  6. Todd Burch

    Todd Burch Electron Pilot

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    My standard gets the whine around the 80-160 kW power band.
     
  7. SCW-Greg

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    This, exactly.

    Mine had no wine of any kind for the first week, but it seems the more I punch it, the more it seems to grow/come easier. I know Tesla says it has nothing to do with how hard you drive it, but I still wonder if there is a correlation. Maybe related to a proper break in period needed - that no one's quite figured out yet? Or just wear and tear related.

    Car is very solid though.
     
  8. cinergi

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    I'm not talking about the whine. It's a completely different noise ...
     
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    Well, there's the whine, but now (for me) this sounds like the whine is starting to morph into the balloon squeal... Almost. I've heard others talk about the squeal as really bad/embarrassing. Mine isn't to this level yet. But it makes me consider not flooring it with guests/test-drives for the neighbors.

    Is that what you're referencing Ben?
     
  10. pxy

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    The whine--does it sound like a truck turbo or something spooling up, and does it respond more to throttle or vehicle speed?
     
  11. mitch672

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    Ben, brought mine in to Watertown for a 6 month/6,000 mile tire rotation, ended up their for 3+ hours (this was a few weeks ago) what was done:

    Rotated tires, I asked about tread wear, rears where down just 1/32" (I have 19" tires non-performance) fronts not measurable
    Replaced front driver and passenger mats, installed rear mat (fronts where curling up, never had the rear mat)
    Installed defroster vent modification (that's what took most of the time)
    TSB: replace DC-DC inverter. This was unexpected, but they said my VIN was on the list to get it replaced. I did notice the 12V running a bit "hot" @ 14.8VDC (I have a passport 9500CI that can show/measures the vehicles 12V voltage)

    They offered me the Model S loaner, but I wasn't about to head back into downtown Boston at 3:30PM :)
    I guess there will be less to do on my 12K maint check. I'm still impressed by Tesla service, all of the above was no charge (I did buy the 4 year prepaid maint a while back)
     
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    There shouldn't be a charge if you bought the 4 year prepaid.
     
  13. cinergi

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    Regarding the drive inverter noise (this might deserve another thread at this rate!) -- it's not the balloon squeal, nor the gear drone, nor anything else I've read anywhere else on TMC. From inside the car with the windows up, it sounds like faint electrical interference -- an AC sine-wave electrical sort of thing. With the windows down and something to reflect the noise back at the car, I'm not sure how to describe the sound. An almost metallic cricket noise with a side of metal scraping. Heh. I gotta find a way to record this sound now :)
     
  14. mitch672

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    Ben, there are apps for iPhone/Android that turn them into frequency/spectrum analyzers, I bet one of those can record the sound and you can send the file to Tesla engineering for analysis.
     
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    How ironic. I will hit 12,500 K miles this weekend and will be over to see Matt and all quite soon. Thanks for the update. Very helpful.
     
  16. Raven5000

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    Was your loaner a P85+?
     
  17. Al Sherman

    Al Sherman It's about THIS car.

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    If you just rotate the tires does the TPMS have to be reset?
     
  18. rogbmw

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    When the rotated and rebalanced mine I believe that they did not have to reset the TPMS Al.
     
  19. stevezzzz

    stevezzzz R;SigS;P85D;SigX

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    Is there a reason to suspect VIN 00011 could be a P85+?
     
  20. mnx

    mnx 2013 P85

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    It's VIN 11,XXX. :) cinergi just wrote it with dashes which made it look like VIN 00011...
     

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