WannabeOwner
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instead of parking close by at the malll your car could go a couple miles away charge and come back to front door to pick you up
That feels like it would increase traffic, but maybe its deceptive?
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instead of parking close by at the malll your car could go a couple miles away charge and come back to front door to pick you up
I would like to know why Tesla has not already implemented a Super Charger software routine where the car can automatically back up to the proper unused and compatible stall, meaning, if there is a car already at A-1, Use the next full powered charging stall, B-1That feels like it would increase traffic, but maybe its deceptive?
I don't believe it will decrease traffic until there is ridesharing, but it will decrease the need for local parking.That feels like it would increase traffic, but maybe its deceptive?
As long as I'm on in the car - traffic doesn't bother me as much.That feels like it would increase traffic, but maybe its deceptive?
What I don't understand in the equation is how autonomy would reduce traffic. It could render it smoother (someday, when there are no other human drivers anymore) and it could (immediately) alleviate parking problems, but wouldn't we also all tomorrow be tempted to use an autonomous car much more often, including for journeys which we now do by plane/train/tram/subway/bus?
That autonomy would reduce traffic is something I often read (so there's bound to be truth in it!) but I don't really understand why and how...
there are MANY people that well never let humans be banned from driving and there always will be
Think about it. There is no logical reason for someone to buy a sport car even today. I know that there are some exceptions but in general, they are expensive to buy, expensive to maintain, uncomfortable to drive daily, can't park them in very many places for fear of damage, very little practicality like carrying many people or cargo, in general get really bad gas mileage, hard to see out of, and the list goes on. But people buy them for a few simple reason that are not going to go away because logically, they should have already gone away a long time ago. They are fun to drive, look nice, are prestigious, and they like the feeling of a sports car and driving it and hundreds of thousands are sold each year. (combine that with people who own trucks that will need to be able to drive for utility purposes and the number is rather large)I feel differently about this. I'm a keen driver, used to tear around the roads in my Youth! and now my view may be influenced by the fact that I'm knocking on a bit, but I think once Autonomous gains a foothold manual-driving will quickly decline. I think the perspective of people who, currently, want to drive manually will change too. My thinking may be coloured by our island being crowded and opportunities to put my foot down are increasingly thwarted by increasing cars-on-road, increasing speed-cameras, and also increasing perception of anti-social driving (driving at excessive speed etc.) being unacceptable. If I lived in a country with wide open spaces I might think differently - although if that country had dead straight roads, and highways, I'd be back to wanting the car to just get me from A to B by itself.
My god a lot of you tesla fanboys/girls need to realize something. While most people on here don't really like cars or driving (that's why they buy a tesla) there are MANY people that well never let humans be banned from driving and there always will be. So all this talk of banning humans driving, removing stop lights and stop signs and lanes, needs to stop because its just not going to happen ever. At least in anyone currently alive or the near futures lifetime.
They are fun to drive, look nice, are prestigious, and they like the feeling of a sports car and driving it and hundreds of thousands are sold each year.
allowing me to drive with less traffic
The increased autonomous safety tech allows me to drive without fear of me or someone else damaging my car
Have the autonomous tech still running in the background even when the human is still driving
If braking uses the same radar as a fully autonomous car does, it could brake to avoid anything a self driving car would
Just in the future make it so it does intervene
with the new autonomous tech, we could allow cars to drive much faster that we do now
Good luck with that.At first, I believe, that car software will try to mimic humans while staying clear of other erratic human behavior. It will also mean learning nuances of different municipalities road construction idiosyncracies. At first, this will seem like an AMAZING success. This will be followed by a few major accidents killing 50 or more people all at once. The news will be jumping all over the stories and politicians will be calling for more regulations. Then the pressure will really be on the car manufacturers to do a spectacular job. This will lead to standardized testing.
During the next phase, autonomous cars will become amazingly safe. People who look at the math will start pushing for outlawing human drivers. Moreover, the car manufacturers will suggest that without humans on the road we could improve safety and efficiency by 3X. For example I could see cars packing together, driving at 90 miles per hour with only one centimeter between them all.
At this point, you will start to see many changes in laws and businesses. Drinking and driving laws will start to change. Wet bars, desks, and big screen TVs will be what people want in a new car. Wealthy children may get their own car to take them to school. Less well to do will use services like Uber rather than owning their own car.
I think airport parking will be a thing of the past. Gas stations will only be on interstates. McDonald's will be the largest vehicle charging company. Rental properties might need to redo their electrical, giving some of their residents chargers.
Like I've said before most places in the world haven't outlawed it. You can very well get behind the wheel of a fully self driving car tomorrow and in those places there's nothing preventing you from letting the car go at it as long as your hands are on/near the wheel and you're maintaining full attention. If you are following the laws that are in place then you aren't breaking the law...Jurisdictions are so slow in adopting rules that I don't think fully autonomous cars will be permitted on our streets for about 20 years.
What I don't understand in the equation is how autonomy would reduce traffic. It could render it smoother (someday, when there are no other human drivers anymore) and it could (immediately) alleviate parking problems, but wouldn't we also all tomorrow be tempted to use an autonomous car much more often, including for journeys which we now do by plane/train/tram/subway/bus?
That autonomy would reduce traffic is something I often read (so there's bound to be truth in it!) but I don't really understand why and how...
I work in a cube... that's not going to change for me on a daily basis. I'd imagine others are in the same boat.@Green Pete - that's a good video but it makes a fundamental assumption - that overall driver hours do not increase with automation. I believe self driving cars are going to massively increase the number of hours we spend on the road - because driving long distances for work or pleasure will be less of a hassle. I think this increase in driver hours will negate the traffic-flow savings of self driving cars.
I work in a cube... that's not going to change for me on a daily basis. I'd imagine others are in the same boat.
My time on the road only increases to the degree the self driving car would go the speed limit instead of my undisclosed speed which may or may not exceed the speed limit.
I have ... yeah, the time savings is disappointing. It does, however, keep me engaged in the driving task whereas otherwise my mind would wander. If I got into an accident because my mind was daydreaming, then there would be a considerable time difference.Ever sat down and done the math on how much time speeding is saving you?
I have ... yeah, the time savings is disappointing. It does, however, keep me engaged in the driving task whereas otherwise my mind would wander. If I got into an accident because my mind was daydreaming, then there would be a considerable time difference.
This is why I'm looking forward to self driving cars. It eliminates the need for speed and I don't have to give it my full attention.
I speed because I consider it a safer way to drive.
If I'm going faster than most people in the road most of my threats are in front of me in full view.
If I'm driving slowly, the threats are all around me and must be monitored from all directions, most with poor visibility.
Also when I'm passing other cars I understand my physical relationship with those vehicles more clearly and I know that area adjacent to my car is clear of obstructions.