MYP PUP uber turbines to 19” TSV with DWS06+

[Hydrocarbon302]

Hey guys, back in February 2020 I changed the Uber Turbines on my MYP out for TSportline 19x8.5 wheels with 255/45/19r Continental DWS06+ tires.

I put about 9000 miles on the new tires and did not see much of an increase in efficiency, but I wrote this off as new tires that needed to be broken in, and I had not yet started data logging with Teslafi until I had a few thousand miles on the new 19” setup. So I couldn’t really compare them to the Uber’s.

In April the weather warmed up enough to put the Uber’s back on, and I’ve put an additional 13k miles on them and they are ready for replacement. I’m holding out for Michelin Pilot Sport EV tires to be released so I the 19” combo back on.



Here is the comparison between the two sets.

The majority of these miles are in the same environments, and road conditions. The only difference is the average temperature is a bit warmer, as you can see.

I feel these results are not typical when going from 21” wheels to 19” wheels. I have noticed an extreme increase in power consumption when accelerating and at low speeds with the 19” wheels.

Can anyone help me to make sense of this data, as to why am I seeing such an increase in consumption as apposed to better efficiency?

Thanks Everyone.

 

[Cares]

Well I think you have way more drives with the Uberturbines so it will normalize the data more but most people already said you won't see much of an efficiency increase going 21 to 19. Most of the benefit would just be comfort and also less frequent tire replacements.

 

[Crypto2k3]

Great post, thanks! I'm thinking of doing the same thing (replacing my Uber's with 19 inch TSportline TSV). I plan to keep the TSportline 19's on all year though with all season tires (I live in Chicago and the roads are terrible here). How do you find the look/quality of of the TSportline wheels? Do they look just as good as the Uber's on the car?

 

[Stavinski]

Is the outer tire diameter the same for sets?

 

[Hydrocarbon302]

They look “ok”. Not as good as the 21” wheels but they’re alright. I’d probably go with 20” TSV rims if I were going for looks but some tire stores don’t like going from a 104 or 103 load rating to a 101 which is what your limited to on the stock 20” tire sizes.

The tire size is the same as stock 19” wheels 255/45-19. I changed the tire size on the car to 19” Gemini wheels.

I really expected a slight increase in efficiency with the 19” TSVs, especially at lower speeds, but instead I got a much higher Wh while accelerating, and just higher wh/m overall. I’m talking old lady on Sunday style driving. It peaks the Energy graph at 900wh/m when easing up to 50 mph on flat ground.

 

[Crypto2k3]

They look “ok”. Not as good as the 21” wheels but they’re alright. I’d probably go with 20” TSV rims if I were going for looks but some tire stores don’t like going from a 104 or 103 load rating to a 101 which is what your limited to on the stock 20” tire sizes.

The tire size is the same as stock 19” wheels 255/45-19. I changed the tire size on the car to 19” Gemini wheels.

I really expected a slight increase in efficiency with the 19” TSVs, especially at lower speeds, but instead I got a much higher Wh while accelerating, and just higher wh/m overall. I’m talking old lady on Sunday style driving. It peaks the Energy graph at 900wh/m when easing up to 50 mph on flat ground.

Thanks - I'm contemplating a used set of inductions vs. the 19 or 20 inch TSV's.

 

[jacie6056]

Hey guys, back in February 2020 I changed the Uber Turbines on my MYP out for TSportline 19x8.5 wheels with 255/45/19r Continental DWS06+ tires.

I put about 9000 miles on the new tires and did not see much of an increase in efficiency, but I wrote this off as new tires that needed to be broken in, and I had not yet started data logging with Teslafi until I had a few thousand miles on the new 19” setup. So I couldn’t really compare them to the Uber’s.

In April the weather warmed up enough to put the Uber’s back on, and I’ve put an additional 13k miles on them and they are ready for replacement. I’m holding out for Michelin Pilot Sport EV tires to be released so I the 19” combo back on.



Here is the comparison between the two sets.



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The majority of these miles are in the same environments, and road conditions. The only difference is the average temperature is a bit warmer, as you can see.

I feel these results are not typical when going from 21” wheels to 19” wheels. I have noticed an extreme increase in power consumption when accelerating and at low speeds with the 19” wheels.


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Can anyone help me to make sense of this data, as to why am I seeing such an increase in consumption as apposed to better efficiency?

Thanks Everyone.

great data collection, may I know what app you used for tracking those data?

 

[Hydrocarbon302]

great data collection, may I know what app you used for tracking those data?

Just good ol’ fashioned www.Teslafi.com

 

[Jdmoto]

Did you try adjusting the wheel setting in the car, setting them to 19" wheels? Not sure if that would help.

 

[jebinc]

Anyone else have efficiency issues when swapping out the Uberturbines with the 19" TSV?

 

[Hydrocarbon302]

Did you try adjusting the wheel setting in the car, setting them to 19" wheels? Not sure if that would help.

I did a few hundred miles ago to see if it would help. I was thinking there was a possibility of the slightly different tire circumference between the 21” and 19” wheels causing issues with the wh/m calculation or perhaps the traction control system. However the setting change in the car did not seem to make any difference.

 

[Cares]

Anyone else have efficiency issues when swapping out the Uberturbines with the 19" TSV?

This is what I'm changing to and from what I've read, the efficiency has just been a wash. Negligible difference. The biggest benefit is tire preservation and comfort.

 

[jebinc]

This is what I'm changing to and from what I've read, the efficiency has just been a wash. Negligible difference. The biggest benefit is tire preservation and comfort.

I wish the new Michelin PS A/S EV tires (high efficiency and low noise) were out in the US. Anyone see anything on when the US will start seeing these tires?

 

[Hydrocarbon302]

I wish the new Michelin PS A/S EV tires (high efficiency and low noise) were out in the US. Anyone see anything on when the US will start seeing these tires?

From what Michelin customer service has told me the MY 20“ induction tire size will be released sometime in September. They are waiting on the other sizes to gauge “popularity“.

I don’t know if you can get those tires installed on another set of 20” rims at a chain tire store if your car came with 104 or 103 LR on 19” or 21” rims, since the 20”s only come in 101LR.

If the people have good results with the 20” SP EVs I’ll try to get a set installed on the MY.

The TSVs can go on the M3 when it arrives.

 

[jebinc]

From what Michelin customer service has told me the MY 20“ induction tire size will be released sometime in September. They are waiting on the other sizes to gauge “popularity“.

I don’t know if you can get those tires installed on another set of 20” rims at a chain tire store if your car came with 104 or 103 LR on 19” or 21” rims, since the 20”s only come in 101LR.

If the people have good results with the 20” SP EVs I’ll try to get a set installed on the MY.

The TSVs can go on the M3 when it arrives.

I’m surprised 19s weren’t the test case. More volume and more potential customers. Plus, the higher load rating. Makes no sense (to me).

 

[Cares]

From what Michelin customer service has told me the MY 20“ induction tire size will be released sometime in September. They are waiting on the other sizes to gauge “popularity“.

I don’t know if you can get those tires installed on another set of 20” rims at a chain tire store if your car came with 104 or 103 LR on 19” or 21” rims, since the 20”s only come in 101LR.

If the people have good results with the 20” SP EVs I’ll try to get a set installed on the MY.

The TSVs can go on the M3 when it arrives.

What are SP EV tires?

 

[jebinc]

What are SP EV tires?

ev, electric vehicle, michelin pilot sport ev :: Michelin North America, Inc.

The first Michelin tire engineered to meet the specific handling and range requirements of electric sports cars Low road-noise for superior travelling

michelinmedia.com

 

[Cares]

Oh yea I know about these tires, I thought there was a different one you were referring to since you mixed up letters in your post.

 

[Hydrocarbon302]

Oh yea I know about these tires, I thought there was a different one you were referring to since you mixed up letters in your post.

Yes Pilot Spot EV.

-Spell check is my worst enema…

 

[Hydrocarbon302]

I’m surprised 19s weren’t the test case. More volume and more potential customers. Plus, the higher load rating. Makes no sense (to me).

Yea, I said the same thing to the customer service agent. They have no idea .