Agreed. The point I was trying to make is that Tesla SC does now know how to do this. And likely will do it if you swap the lights yourself and play dumb
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New headlights retrofit
- Thread starter bomax
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E90alex
Active Member
And even then not everyone has been successful in getting Tesla to do it as evidenced by other posts in this thread. It’s kind of hit or miss and whether the service techs 1) know how to do it and 2) are willing to do it. Much different than a company wide policy saying they will for sure do it for anyone that asks.
Also Tesla can easily “fix” a “corrupted” vehicle configuration OTA like they did for people that retrofitted missing lumbar. They know exactly what equipment and configuration your car left the factory with so if there’s any deviation they can change it back.
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stopcrazypp
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As mentioned that was someone that did the swap themselves and fooled the SC to change the software config. That is a whole lot different than Tesla officially doing the swap themselves (including the light). That's the evidence I was asking for. In the latter case there is no fooling required and it opens the possibility of paid retrofits happening for older cars if Tesla is now officially doing retrofits.
stopcrazypp
Well-Known Member
They don't want to deal with unofficial configs. That increases the complexity for SCs when they already have to deal with a lot of variation. This is the same reason why they don't do the heated steering wheel retrofit and fog light (which is even less complex, but does require a software config change to get it to show up in UI). Instead people have to rely on hacks (like tying it to headlight to activate).
For example if there is an issue and they have to revert to factory config, it may break any unofficial configs, then you have the customer complaining (it's much worse for matrix headlights, you might lose your headlights completely, while a disabled heated steering or fog light is much less serious an issue). If they ever intend to release an adaptive mode for the matrix light, that opens up another whole can of worms. I don't imagine Tesla wants to deal with that at all.
Plus in context to a supply shortage of matrix lights, it makes zero sense to offer a retrofit that will only increase demand for it.
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When you do the light show does it spell out tesla? I'm trying to get an understanding of how software involved this retrofit is? Trying to figure out if it basically turns it into a car that had matrix from the factory. Because of that is the case then future adaptive software pushes may work as intended.
goRt
Active Member
What I mean is if the gateway says matrix headlights then when they actually use the matrix headlights to their full ability will it just work or will it fail because they weren't originally on the car.
goRt
Active Member
It's a single option matrix or not, all covered in this thread
Yes, the Tesla logo is now spelled out during light show. I have no idea if the ‘smart’ adaptive features will work though, once the US approves/allows Tesla to activate the fleet
Rippin1Gear
Member
So how many pre2020 going to install them, and drive to a SC, play dumb and say my headlights won’t work?
I can see the 2021/22 owners getting/fooling them to reconfigure.
heavyD
Member
You don't think Tesla service will quickly realize that the hardware doesn't match the original configuration of the car?
goRt
Active Member
But why should it care - Tesla has already received the revenue for the product so why not do the simple configuration change?
I'm already here preparing for the worst case. If Tesla doesn't officially change the config now I will work with the very knowledgeable folks here and help with creating a "Lin translator" someone is already working on such a device for the model S. Although this will not provide full matrix functionality or project tesla on the wall.
thesmokingman
Active Member
They shouldn't care between us but I don't think it's a matter of caring or not. The car is a big phone and the firmware versions and revisions and builds, it must get really crazy the convolutions it takes. It may be that they won't support this because these mods will create too many permutations and they have to support these changes... something like that? It could become a big headache and this isn't a priority issue. This is an area I wish Tesla would change tact on, this and more support for enthusiast mods.
goRt
Active Member
Just like a phone the car contains a configuration object. Tesla's servers notify that there's a firmware update available and the car pulls the modules it requires.
I agree, a software company as big as Tesla would definitely follow this sort of model. Let's be real tesla doesn't make cars. They make software that runs on their 4 wheel hardware.
Rippin1Gear
Member
Well if I get a cheap enough pair I will just ask the SC to change gateway config ID 28 to value 2 that should resolve the issue. Have 4 SC all within an hour drive.
