Funny. All this time and this is the first picture I can recall of the Model S 2nd row seating being anything but up. Including in my own vehicle.
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rlpm
S P85 | Sig X _P90D_
I thought there was the motor, the single-speed gearbox, and the drive inverter between the rear wheels. Where's the second motor?
spatterso911
P100DL - Raven
VIN P04816 delivered on Saturday -- factory tour was amazing!
The car is completely awesome! All I want to do now is go out and drive it -- it's probably going to be cutting into my pre-existing golf obsession. ;-) I'm still working on getting a NEMA 14-50 installed at my condo (probably another week or two), so taking it a bit easy for now, but a couple hours at Santana Row today got me back to a full standard charge.
A few notes (and nits) on car at delivery:
- First, my delivery specialist Brian, who also works in the Santana Row store, was very helpful and patient with me and my guests. I had read the manuals, forums, etc. but felt like I'd forgotten everything in the excitement. Still, he went through everything with me and answered all my and my friend's questions -- a nice refresher and I learned a couple new things.
- Just 15 mi on the odometer.
- Parcel shelf still on due bill.
- Had some minor paint issues on the rear hatch and bumper. A few flecks of white and one of black under the clear-coat. Could see them under the spot lights in the delivery room, but hard to see in daylight (especially with all the pollen that's already accumulated). Also a small fold in the paint on the hatch. All added to due bill.
- No P85 badge. Given the option and I decided that I'd add that to my due bill as well.
- My car had been sitting at the factory waiting for me to get back from vacation for a couple weeks. It was washed, but I think it could have gotten a better one. Windows/mirrors almost have a greasy film on them that shows in certain light (no not their normal coating). Should come off with first cleaning. I probably need to look closer, but I think the clear-coat may not be totally swirl free (perhaps just the tailgate. still, it would be pretty minor if they're there -- at this point I'll need to hand wash to check but swirls bug me).
- Charge cord did come with the aluminum/chrome Tesla, trunk footwell(?) area did come with cover, and rear "psuedo-chrome" license plate holder mounted. (Basically everything was there except the parcel shelf and P85 badge.)
- No bubbles in paint armor. Interior seems perfect (but I really want floor mats). Alignment of all panels looked great (very happy with this), although the front corners of the frunk do seem to stick up a bit more than I expected (reported elsewhere on forums and supposedly normal). Also, top chrome trim's alignment with the rear door's chrome doesn't seem perfect to me, but is the same on both sides.
Really, any negative items there are just nitpicks and not all that noticeable, just not quite perfect.
Now that I've had the car for a couple days a few notes:
- One pedal driving is great! I like driving manual cars and generally dislike automatic, but the regen on this car is perfect for me. Fun and very natural to control. I think I've only once hit my breaks with any force.
- I'm enjoying watching my power consumption more than I expected. I'm purposely conserving energy a bit due to my current charging situation. I have to admit though that it's quite obvious on the output when I drive vs. my fiancee -- if I'm ever range anxious then she'll probably be driving.
- On that note the cruise control is great, seems very energy efficient, and based on some limited testing it seems to maintain the proper speed probably better than any car I've driven before.
- I can't get over the door handles popping out at the perfect time for me to grab them -- it's just so perfectly timed and slick. I also really like that the music starts up right where it was when I left; the car is very welcoming as you get in. I'm still getting used to leaving the car when everything is still active.
- The car is even quieter than I remembered. Even the noises from outside the car are muted very nicely.
- After driving a 350Z for almost 10 years, I had the steering set to "sport" but two things made me change it to "standard". (1) It's pretty stiff especially when doing u-turns, which I have to do daily. (2) I floored it through a quick turn onto a highway, used to how my Z would react but I obviously am not for the S. Hopefully with a bit more experience with the car I'll know how it reacts in that situation a bit better.
- Free quick charging at Santana Row is very nice (especially when you don't yet have a charger at home). Can't wait until they add some more HPWCs or NEMA 14-50s. I was getting about 45 mi/hour charge. I think the ~70A and slightly low voltage doesn't let it get the full 60+ but I still thought it would be a bit faster. Still, I was back to full charge before I was even done with my business around there. I may also try out a charger at Deer Creek since I work near there but only have 110V available at my office.
- The mobile app is very useful and fun to show off. I really like being able to see the state of the car/charging, pre-heat the interior, and of course the surprise honk at friends. I wish the app had notifications for charge complete and if the alarm goes off (I'm guessing it doesn't have the latter). It's great already and I think the app has a lot of potential.
- I'm still getting used to having a backup camera, especially its wide angle. I really hope the guidelines come soon.
- The sound the pano roof makes when opening while on the highway is a bit startling, but just for a split second. (My fiancee opened it without warning me.) Still, I don't think I'll be doing it too often.
- My passenger door can be a bit hard to open at times (again, reported elsewhere on the forums). I'll probably have Menlo Park service look at it.
- I'm amazed at how many Tesla's I've driven by in the last couple days. I normally see one or two on the way to work, but this weekend just driving around the South Bay they seemed to be everywhere. Personally, I hope this trend continues. :wink:
The car is completely awesome! All I want to do now is go out and drive it -- it's probably going to be cutting into my pre-existing golf obsession. ;-) I'm still working on getting a NEMA 14-50 installed at my condo (probably another week or two), so taking it a bit easy for now, but a couple hours at Santana Row today got me back to a full standard charge.
A few notes (and nits) on car at delivery:
- First, my delivery specialist Brian, who also works in the Santana Row store, was very helpful and patient with me and my guests. I had read the manuals, forums, etc. but felt like I'd forgotten everything in the excitement. Still, he went through everything with me and answered all my and my friend's questions -- a nice refresher and I learned a couple new things.
- Just 15 mi on the odometer.
- Parcel shelf still on due bill.
- Had some minor paint issues on the rear hatch and bumper. A few flecks of white and one of black under the clear-coat. Could see them under the spot lights in the delivery room, but hard to see in daylight (especially with all the pollen that's already accumulated). Also a small fold in the paint on the hatch. All added to due bill.
- No P85 badge. Given the option and I decided that I'd add that to my due bill as well.
- My car had been sitting at the factory waiting for me to get back from vacation for a couple weeks. It was washed, but I think it could have gotten a better one. Windows/mirrors almost have a greasy film on them that shows in certain light (no not their normal coating). Should come off with first cleaning. I probably need to look closer, but I think the clear-coat may not be totally swirl free (perhaps just the tailgate. still, it would be pretty minor if they're there -- at this point I'll need to hand wash to check but swirls bug me).
- Charge cord did come with the aluminum/chrome Tesla, trunk footwell(?) area did come with cover, and rear "psuedo-chrome" license plate holder mounted. (Basically everything was there except the parcel shelf and P85 badge.)
- No bubbles in paint armor. Interior seems perfect (but I really want floor mats). Alignment of all panels looked great (very happy with this), although the front corners of the frunk do seem to stick up a bit more than I expected (reported elsewhere on forums and supposedly normal). Also, top chrome trim's alignment with the rear door's chrome doesn't seem perfect to me, but is the same on both sides.
Really, any negative items there are just nitpicks and not all that noticeable, just not quite perfect.
Now that I've had the car for a couple days a few notes:
- One pedal driving is great! I like driving manual cars and generally dislike automatic, but the regen on this car is perfect for me. Fun and very natural to control. I think I've only once hit my breaks with any force.
- I'm enjoying watching my power consumption more than I expected. I'm purposely conserving energy a bit due to my current charging situation. I have to admit though that it's quite obvious on the output when I drive vs. my fiancee -- if I'm ever range anxious then she'll probably be driving.
- On that note the cruise control is great, seems very energy efficient, and based on some limited testing it seems to maintain the proper speed probably better than any car I've driven before.
- I can't get over the door handles popping out at the perfect time for me to grab them -- it's just so perfectly timed and slick. I also really like that the music starts up right where it was when I left; the car is very welcoming as you get in. I'm still getting used to leaving the car when everything is still active.
- The car is even quieter than I remembered. Even the noises from outside the car are muted very nicely.
- After driving a 350Z for almost 10 years, I had the steering set to "sport" but two things made me change it to "standard". (1) It's pretty stiff especially when doing u-turns, which I have to do daily. (2) I floored it through a quick turn onto a highway, used to how my Z would react but I obviously am not for the S. Hopefully with a bit more experience with the car I'll know how it reacts in that situation a bit better.
- Free quick charging at Santana Row is very nice (especially when you don't yet have a charger at home). Can't wait until they add some more HPWCs or NEMA 14-50s. I was getting about 45 mi/hour charge. I think the ~70A and slightly low voltage doesn't let it get the full 60+ but I still thought it would be a bit faster. Still, I was back to full charge before I was even done with my business around there. I may also try out a charger at Deer Creek since I work near there but only have 110V available at my office.
- The mobile app is very useful and fun to show off. I really like being able to see the state of the car/charging, pre-heat the interior, and of course the surprise honk at friends. I wish the app had notifications for charge complete and if the alarm goes off (I'm guessing it doesn't have the latter). It's great already and I think the app has a lot of potential.
- I'm still getting used to having a backup camera, especially its wide angle. I really hope the guidelines come soon.
- The sound the pano roof makes when opening while on the highway is a bit startling, but just for a split second. (My fiancee opened it without warning me.) Still, I don't think I'll be doing it too often.
- My passenger door can be a bit hard to open at times (again, reported elsewhere on the forums). I'll probably have Menlo Park service look at it.
- I'm amazed at how many Tesla's I've driven by in the last couple days. I normally see one or two on the way to work, but this weekend just driving around the South Bay they seemed to be everywhere. Personally, I hope this trend continues. :wink:
AMPd
Well-Known Member
Seeing the rear seat flat like that makes me wonder if a person can lay down back there?
Would there be room to stretch out? A few comforters would soften up the area, would be great for long trips
Would there be room to stretch out? A few comforters would soften up the area, would be great for long trips
kinddog
Banned
Seegem
Member
There are actually two motors attached to the same single-speed gearbox:
(The AWD Model X has one of the two in the front)
JRP3
Hyperactive Member
That is not correct. What you are looking at is a motor on one side and the other side is the inverter. Single motor.
That's not two motors you're looking at: it's a single motor on one side of the gearbox plus the power electronics module that takes DC current from the battery and converts it to variable-frequency AC to power the motor.
Seegem
Member
Really...! I stand corrected, thank you. I'll update my post shortly.
So this means that the Model X is the only model that uses a different motor (two smaller vs one larger?) Or, does it use two of the same size motors, I wonder..
So this means that the Model X is the only model that uses a different motor (two smaller vs one larger?) Or, does it use two of the same size motors, I wonder..
The rear floor by the hatch is a couple of inches lower than the front portion where the seats fold down, but I think it should be easy to get a foam pad or something to even it out, and if you don't mind sleeping curled up in the fetal position, there should be enough room for most folks to overnight. I haven't tried it, but I might do so just for fun.
Range: My Tesla has ~300 miles of range. In a week I'll be taking her on a 200 mile trip up to Boston, and I can't wait to test out what she can really do, as well as the super chargers along the route (free to use!). But for around my home (shopping, seeing friends, taking the dog out), I'm never concerned about the condition of the battery. I just drive (as inefficiently as I can, lately (my foot has gotten quite heavy these last 3 days, and when I come home, I plug the car in and forget about it. It's full the next time I use it. And, it costs ~$8 to charge the entire battery (assuming I drove it to empty). My 250 miles of fun driving over the last 3 days cost me about as much as a cup of Starbucks coffee. This is a win.
Seegem
Where did you calculate you can fill the Model S battery from nearly empty to full in NYC (ConEdison territory) for only ~$8?
I live in Westchester, NY... ConEd electric rate averages about 20 cents/kWh (usually about 10-11 cents for delivery + 8-9 cents for the actual electricity).
This price doesn't even take into account wall to battery charging loss, taxes and other fees. A that rate, for a usable 81.5 kWh worth of charge (estimated usable amount of the battery), that then comes to a minimum cost of $16.30
I wish we could charge our Model S's for only $8 from empty, but that simply isn't the case :frown:
Aaron
Seegem
Member
I'm getting power from an industrial installation, with industrial rates, that in my building are 10.1 cents per KWh
Yeah I agree. I am thinking of cutting a piece of plywood (or MDF) to fit over the pit in the back. My greyhound is ~65 pounds and has very small feet. When I end up driving to Charlotte with her in the back I think some more substance will be in order. Then cover it up the whole back with a 'playpen' to keep the hair in check.
Damn, you got me...was trying to remain anonymous. Better update the Celebrities thread. :wink:
rogbmw
Member
PeterSZ
Electrified petrolhead
Seegem this is easily the best review I have read here, ever.
Thanks a lot - it makes for very nice reading for those poor waiting bastards from Europe!
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