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Thanks! Which tires are you going with?
I am opting for either the xice3 or blizzak. Stopping distance in the winter is more important to me than handling.
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Thanks! Which tires are you going with?
definitely software limited...The car appears to be software (or battery) limited, not traction limited.
Both the P3D+ that comes with summer tires, and the P3D- that comes with all seasons, have the same 3.5 0-60.
IIRC at least one P3D- owner swapped to performance summer tires and saw no significant change in 0-60.
The car appears to be software (or battery) limited, not traction limited.
Good point
So what would effect the performance of the P3D+ if it had All Season tires? What performance part would it lose? Handling, grip? If I can still get 3.5 sec in 0-60 then I'm not sure why I would hold on to the stock tires that come with the P3D+.
Depends on the tires... really good all seasons like the A/S 3+? You wouldn't lose much... a bit of handling at the very edge that most people don't need in street driving... with mediocre all seasons (like what they put stock on the 18s) you'd lose some meaningful things like braking distance though.
What's the difference between
20
and
EVT Wheel for Tesla Model 3 ("Turbine" Style)
They look the same but TST is about $400 more ($800 if counting TPMS)
How come evwheeldirect didn't offer TPMS? I've never been a car guy until Tesla, so could someone explain to me what TPMS is? If I went with the evwheeldirect route and chose their tires, where would I get TPMS since they doesn't offer?
Good point
So what would effect the performance of the P3D+ if it had All Season tires? What performance part would it lose? Handling, grip? If I can still get 3.5 sec in 0-60 then I'm not sure why I would hold on to the stock tires that come with the P3D+.
I am opting for either the xice3 or blizzak. Stopping distance in the winter is more important to me than handling.
I would avoid the AS3+s (read the reviews) and consider the Continental DWS 06s. There are rumors that they are lighter, last longer, and have even better rolling resistance than the OEM summer tires! They're 0.3" wider, too, so you get a bit more grip.
I would avoid the AS3+s (read the reviews) and consider the Continental DWS 06s. There are rumors that they are lighter, last longer, and have even better rolling resistance than the OEM summer tires! They're 0.3" wider, too, so you get a bit more grip.
I initially ordered from ev wheels direct but they are not meant for the performance model. They don’t have the boar machined out properly. I went with t sport line because they do.What's the difference between
20
and
EVT Wheel for Tesla Model 3 ("Turbine" Style)
They look the same but TST is about $400 more ($800 if counting TPMS)
How come evwheeldirect didn't offer TPMS? I've never been a car guy until Tesla, so could someone explain to me what TPMS is? If I went with the evwheeldirect route and chose their tires, where would I get TPMS since they doesn't offer?
You mean like this review- which clearly shows the AS3+ is a better tire than the DWS 06?
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testDisplay.jsp?ttid=216
That's pretty... reductive
tesla pilot sport vs. dws 06 - Google Search
I'd look at these. Tesla S/X owners who opted for the DWS 06s and/or AS3+s. The consistent winner is DWS 06. The AS3+s consistently sound loud, if nothing else, where the DWS 06s seem to have no compromise.
Do you have a link? On tirerack it says it's not available for P3D+
Not really? YOU said "I would avoid the AS3+s (read the reviews) "
So I read a review by one of the most well respected names in tires. And they contradicted your claim.
Your link is a bunch of google results.
The first one is tirerack. The exact test I sent you, where they find the A/S 3+ outperforming the DWS06 in nearly every single performance test.
The second is from these forums (model s section) that has one owner, on a different car, with different wheels, who said he found the DWS quieter.
The third was a tesla forum thread where nobody says the DWS06 is better at all, in fact one guy says "There is another all-season that's as good or better than the Continental, it's the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+"
The fourth is a BMW forum thread where nobody compared them directly at all, but one guy mentions he "heard" an older version of the A/S (not the A/S 3+) was loud... then someone who has actually HAD both tires says "I've had both and I live in NJ. I prefer the Mich A/S 3 for better handling, performance and they lasted longer"
So... your link doesn't seem to support your claim.... (or possibly you remember some old discussion of the older version of the A/S and are applying it to the A/S3+ which appears to be a much better tire?)
Yikes. My point was it was a lot easier for me to find uncompromised praise for the DWS06 than the AS3+. The consistent feedback on the latter is that they’re great, but loud at highway speeds (Loud Michelin Pilot Sport AS3+??). That isn’t being said about the DWS06s. Just search “as3+ loud.”
In any event, I retract my statement.
Tell you what: I’ll run DWS 06s and you run AS3+s and we’ll keep both tire companies in business