Performance Plus - does it increase 0-60?

[irvineboy]

Is it worth it? I already thought that the regular P85 with 21" rims were kinda firm so I can imagine how this would. But probably better handling/steering?

I am looking at 2014 as the 2013 don't have the electric power folding mirrors. I don't think its worth the $3000 labor/materials to retrofit it. So waiting patiently for a 2014 to pop up. are there anything else in the 2014 worth nothing that the 2013 models did not have?

 

[EarlyAdopter]

The + only improves handling. 0-60 remains the same.

If you want more there, you need to go to a D.

 

[CHG-ON]

The + tightens handling, adds MUCH more expensive wheel/tire combo. I love mine, but the 21"ers are killing me. They look lovely, but tire life is flatly ridiculous.

But Early, I thought the + brought down 0-60 to 3.8 from 4.2, according to what I have read. I have not track tested. So I may be living in a fantasy. But honestly, in the real world, she is plenty fast enough regardless.

 

[Todd Burch]

The + tightens handling, adds MUCH more expensive wheel/tire combo. I love mine, but the 21"ers are killing me. They look lovely, but tire life is flatly ridiculous.

But Early, I thought the + brought down 0-60 to 3.8 from 4.2, according to what I have read. I have not track tested. So I may be living in a fantasy. But honestly, in the real world, she is plenty fast enough regardless.

Nope--P85 and P85+ have the same 0-60.

 

[Xenoilphobe]

The plus adds $10K for 21 rims and beefier suspension plus the "+" on the back. I thought about it, but the 21 rims killed the deal for me - for $1000 per hub I can buy same damn nice 19" rims and tires - in fact two complete sets...

 

[Pollux]

Off the top of my head, between taking delivery of my P85+ in August, 2013, I think the following popped up before the + was replaced by the D:
+ power folding mirrors
+ winter package (heated wiper nozzles, wiper blade defrosting, heated rear seats, maybe heated steering wheel)
+ parking sensors (rear & front)
+ also, I think some of the later 2014 P85+s (Sep?) might have had the Autopilot sensor suite

Alan

Is it worth it? I already thought that the regular P85 with 21" rims were kinda firm so I can imagine how this would. But probably better handling/steering?

I am looking at 2014 as the 2013 don't have the electric power folding mirrors. I don't think its worth the $3000 labor/materials to retrofit it. So waiting patiently for a 2014 to pop up. are there anything else in the 2014 worth nothing that the 2013 models did not have?

 

[SherSlick]

The + was the staggered fit tires (Larger in the rear) I am not sure if much (possibly anything) else was different from the actual suspension components or configuration on the regular P85.

 

[irvineboy]

Do you guys notice the improvement in steering and,handling? Or is it neglible?

 

[SherSlick]

The P85+ drives very similar to the P85D when it comes to handling. My Owner Advisor told me the + upgrades are included in the P85D. However I have not driven an S85 so it's difficult for me to say it's a major difference.

 

[Alysashley79]

I have a November 2013 P85 and was told by my SC tech that I have the same suspension that the + has. At the time I bought my car it was only $6500 to upgrade to a + and really that was for the staggered tires.

Ive gotten 3.8 out of mine with the right tires. I don't think the + makes a difference in the 0-60 but tires make a huge difference.

 

[SherSlick]

I have a November 2013 P85 and was told by my SC tech that I have the same suspension that the + has. At the time I bought my car it was only $6500 to upgrade to a + and really that was for the staggered tires.

Ive gotten 3.8 out of mine with the right tires. I don't think the + makes a difference in the 0-60 but tires make a huge difference.

What kind of tires did you get 3.8 with?

 

[irvineboy]

I have a November 2013 P85 and was told by my SC tech that I have the same suspension that the + has. At the time I bought my car it was only $6500 to upgrade to a + and really that was for the staggered tires.

Ive gotten 3.8 out of mine with the right tires. I don't think the + makes a difference in the 0-60 but tires make a huge difference.

So a P85 with 21 rims vs a P85+ with 21 rims, can you tell the difference in handling and steering?

 

[MuppetOwl]

I have a November 2013 P85 and was told by my SC tech that I have the same suspension that the + has. At the time I bought my car it was only $6500 to upgrade to a + and really that was for the staggered tires.

Ive gotten 3.8 out of mine with the right tires. I don't think the + makes a difference in the 0-60 but tires make a huge difference.

If you look in the Tesla parts catalog, P85 does not have the same part numbers on very many suspension parts. P85+ has different suspensions and air spring modules. And also links, brushings and sway bar for rear suspension.
The P85D have also all that different from the P85+, P85D also has stronger links and swaybar in the front.