roblab
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Because of the patents most likely.
My car changes the speed limit JUST AS I pass the signs. I don't remember that it just changes for no visible reason, like a GPS notification.
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Because of the patents most likely.
My car changes the speed limit JUST AS I pass the signs. I don't remember that it just changes for no visible reason, like a GPS notification.
My phantom braking has only happened under one circumstance: nighttime underpass on the highway. It is a bitch. Driving along with no issue and come to the underpass and the car thinks it is going to hit a wall or something. Hard braking. I know that when I drive home after dark on the highway that I can't use AP. Eventually, they'll have enough images to be able to properly train the AI. Until that time...no AP at night.
Watch out. There are people on here that will call you a boldface liar or just a delusional uneducated driver when you say you had hard braking. They will tell you that only light regen braking is possible in these situations.
interesting - so I wonder if anyone is planning to add 'time of day' as a virtual sensor input, to be considered as part of the decision algorithms?
OT: I wish we could work on this problem as a whole, meaning its each company trying to solve the same problem, but everyone working on it and sharing the results so we can get there faster. would be great if the world could get together and make it a common worldwide goal; to grow the system so that it can be used on all cars, as a service. in the middle of last century, john kennedy wanted the US to win the space race and he made it a point of national pride to get there, first. I wish we had a similar national visionary (not a corporate one). if we teamed up (world-wide common research problem) I'm sure we'd get there much faster and have a better solution than any one vendor could self-design.
I hope they fix the wipers first.
My phantom braking has only happened under one circumstance: nighttime underpass on the highway. It is a bitch. Driving along with no issue and come to the underpass and the car thinks it is going to hit a wall or something. Hard braking. I know that when I drive home after dark on the highway that I can't use AP. Eventually, they'll have enough images to be able to properly train the AI. Until that time...no AP at night.
yes, the passenger gets the worst rendering of the incident. I think women (man, am I a nut or what to say this) react differently to a misbehaving inert object than a man does. Men are used to changing variables for some reason ;-)I bought my car in the beginning of 2019 without any autopilot. Shortly after, I was given a 30-day free trial which I used on a long road trip. The only part of AP I really liked was the adaptive cruise control. It did the Phantom braking thing twice in 3 days on long straight country roads while using cruise. I didn't use cruise control for the rest of the trip, and I couldn't wait for it to expire so I can get my regular Cruise back. Freaked my wife out completely. She would have bought a model y but now she owns the new Lexus rx450h.
@Kitfox the detective can look at this
too bad the dashcam doesn't overlay any information like speed, but here we were going 136kmh on the left lane, and suddenly it jolted down to 110kmh by the time i glanced down at the speed.
That's some good stuff right there!Three-second video, so it's a little short on context. Even checking frame velocity gets to be difficult in that short a view. I see a few things that would generate appropriate braking, and a few things that could generate inappropriate braking.
Most likely, assuming the inter-lane stripes at least match the most common international specs (~3m stripe, ~10m space), then the truck in the right lane is traveling about 34km/h (or more) slower than the Tesla average over those three seconds, so the Tesla is doing that whole speed adjustment based on the adjacent lane thing.
* That clip starts closer to the leading car and falls back. There's a chance that the radar detected a slowdown of the car in front of the leading car and was falling back for safety. Or, outside the clip, if that leading car was previously in the right lane and cut the Tesla off.
* Bridge crossing might be a road with a lower speed limit. Mislocation is a thing, a really crappy thing, and sucks, and should be reported regularly so Tesla can fix that {censored}. If the problem happens at that location any more in the future, report it as a bug with the voice controls if you connect to WiFi frequently
One thing they could definitely use improvement on is deceleration curve. If it's not an urgent maneuver, reduce the speed less urgently. The fact that people will think the car is "braking hard" even if it's just "accelerating less quickly" is a weird thing that may not have a good solution at all. But a more gradual change and ramp up of the force impressions could definitely help.
I’d like to turn off that adjacent lane horse manure. It’s been nothing but problems for me.Three-second video, so it's a little short on context. Even checking frame velocity gets to be difficult in that short a view. I see a few things that would generate appropriate braking, and a few things that could generate inappropriate braking.
Most likely, assuming the inter-lane stripes at least match the most common international specs (~3m stripe, ~10m space), then the truck in the right lane is traveling about 34km/h (or more) slower than the Tesla average over those three seconds, so the Tesla is doing that whole speed adjustment based on the adjacent lane thing.
* That clip starts closer to the leading car and falls back. There's a chance that the radar detected a slowdown of the car in front of the leading car and was falling back for safety. Or, outside the clip, if that leading car was previously in the right lane and cut the Tesla off.
* Bridge crossing might be a road with a lower speed limit. Mislocation is a thing, a really crappy thing, and sucks, and should be reported regularly so Tesla can fix that {censored}. If the problem happens at that location any more in the future, report it as a bug with the voice controls if you connect to WiFi frequently
One thing they could definitely use improvement on is deceleration curve. If it's not an urgent maneuver, reduce the speed less urgently. The fact that people will think the car is "braking hard" even if it's just "accelerating less quickly" is a weird thing that may not have a good solution at all. But a more gradual change and ramp up of the force impressions could definitely help.
Just can't understand why anyone would pay $7000 for FSD when we are supposed to accept that the car can't even go straight on the highway without us nervously waiting for it to screw up after 3+ years of AP development of the Model 3 and much longer on Model S.
The programmers are clearly not very good at what they do.
So if they still haven't fixed those AP issues in 3 years, how long until you think until they'll fix FSD?
I’d like to turn off that adjacent lane horse manure. It’s been nothing but problems for me.