[Poll] - Are you ordering Model Y?

[Zoomit]

SR and towing.......

Right?! There's going to be hundreds of threads on "can I tow this?" "how far will I be able to tow my boat" and many people disappointed in the losses associated with towing.

Bottomline--The Y is an very efficient vehicle. Putting anything significant behind it will kill it's range due to the extra drag, which in this case can easily be 2x the baseline vehicle.

 

[McManX]

Right?! There's going to be hundreds of threads on "can I tow this?" "how far will I be able to tow my boat" and many people disappointed in the losses associated with towing.

Bottomline--The Y is an very efficient vehicle. Putting anything significant behind it will kill it's range due to the extra drag, which in this case can easily be 2x the baseline vehicle.

With a 220 range model Y, less than 100 miles towing is possible/likely

 

[Thunder7ga]

I am definitely interested to replace the wife's minivan, but she is not so certain. She loves my car and wants to take it constantly, but she doesn't like the look of an SUV that looks like a car, she wants it to look like an SUV. So I guess we'll see. Maybe I'll tell her she is getting mine and I buy it for me

 

[vjason]

I boat around 20 times a year at a large lake less than 10 miles from my house. The dealer is a simple 40 mile round trip if I need service. 19 foot Yamaha ski jet-boat, 2800 pounds. Fairly easy boat to tow.

I don't care what the range is, I just need to know if it is an option. I know the range could easily be reduced by half, but I could live with that given my personal situation. Many others could as well.

Just trying to justify a second Tesla, that is all. I get that I'm a fringe use case simply for wanting to tow, just curious is all.

With a 220 range model Y, less than 100 miles towing is possible/likely

 

[Zoomit]

I know the range could easily be reduced by half, but I could live with that given my personal situation. Many others could as well.

Sounds like you're doing appropriate due diligence. Hope other do as well.

 

[vjason]

Yep. That being said I will be surprised if Tesla rates a base Y to tow. I hope they do, but can understand why they would not (not just to make a profit, but to be cautious).

It only takes one idiot to buy a base Y, attempt to max out the towing capacity while driving from Miami to Seattle, and then complain all over the web about poor range and performance.

I'd prefer my next towing vehicle be a BEV and a Tesla, but as it stands right now I need a little help to justify the purchase. I'll drive the current truck I use to tow into the ground before I buy another ICE vehicle though.

Sounds like you're doing appropriate due diligence. Hope other do as well.

 

[Johann Koeber]

I expect to order one as soon as possible. Have purchased every TESLA. Hand them down in the family. Right now my P3 is my favorite, the MX second.

Now if I could only justify a semi ....

 

[ggnykk]

Do you really need 600 mile range with V3 superchargers coming? As you say that's a very long way off today, especially at that price point!

I think you need 600 miles EPA range if you do a lot of road trip. You mostly use the battery from roughly 10% to 80% in road trip when you supercharge, so that's 70% of the range. In addition, the actual range is a lot less than the EPA range in winter time. So these two factors combined mean 40% of the 600 miles EPA range is the real world in long road trip in winter. That's only 240 miles real world range per charge. Really not that much compare to gas car.

 

[ggnykk]

Look at what's been accomplished in just 5 years. Tesla started out with the 60 and is now up to the 100 pack. I think the landscape will completely change in 10. We may even see on road passive charging similar to cell phone wireless charging. Other countries are considering deploying in space a solar farm and beaming the power back to earth. 10 years? it's going to be fun.

I personally think wireless or wired charging installed on highway surface to charge moving EV would never happen in large scale. The infrastructure capital cost is just too massive. Plus, i think this is just a "stop gap" temporary solution when the EV range and charging speed is still relatively low. As the EV range improve and charging speed increase even more in the next decades, let's say double or triple. The need for wireless/wired highway charging or sci-fi solar from space proposal are pretty much pointless and unnecessary at the end.

 

[ggnykk]

I expect to order one as soon as possible. Have purchased every TESLA. Hand them down in the family. Right now my P3 is my favorite, the MX second.

Now if I could only justify a semi ....

Sounds like you can justify getting the Semi and a trailer, then put all four Tesla on the trailer in one go, haha.

 

[ggnykk]

With a 220 range model Y, less than 100 miles towing is possible/likely

Sounds about right.

 

[vgame64]

I hope it has a power liftgate!

 

[ggnykk]

I hope it has a power liftgate!

if it doesn't, consider that as weight lifting when you use the liftgate.

 

[Blu Angel]

The key point as to which Tesla Y to buy is how fast Tesla will deploy the Maxwell Technology production techniques

Since I'm the proud owner of a LR Tesla 3, then I'm on board for the SR or MR Tesla Y for my wife.
Will replace her '08 Volvo C30 in a couple of years (2021).
With Elon Musk's purchase of Maxwell Technology, I expect a miminum 20% increase in energy density
from 250 WH/kg to 300 WH/kg

The Reason Tesla Spent $218 Million On Maxwell Technologies

SR Tesla Y: 220 miles + 20% (44 miles) = 264 mile range
MR Tesla Y: 260miles + 20% (52 miles) = 312 mile range
LR Tesla Y: 310 miles + 20% (62 miles) = 372 mile range


To summarize, the MR Tesla Y should get about 310 miles or darn close to the current LR TM3
with the applied Maxwell Technologies expertise.

 

[dgpcolorado]

My guess is that the base Y will have the MR battery and that there will be no SR battery version, regardless of what they are called. The Y with the SR battery would just be too short range to bother with.

 

[ggnykk]

The key point as to which Tesla Y to buy is how fast Tesla will deploy the Maxwell Technology production techniques

Since I'm the proud owner of a LR Tesla 3, then I'm on board for the SR or MR Tesla Y for my wife.
Will replace her '08 Volvo C30 in a couple of years (2021).
With Elon Musk's purchase of Maxwell Technology, I expect a miminum 20% increase in energy density
from 250 WH/kg to 300 WH/kg

The Reason Tesla Spent $218 Million On Maxwell Technologies

SR Tesla Y: 220 miles + 20% (44 miles) = 264 mile range
MR Tesla Y: 260miles + 20% (52 miles) = 312 mile range
LR Tesla Y: 310 miles + 20% (62 miles) = 372 mile range


To summarize, the MR Tesla Y should get about 310 miles or darn close to the current LR TM3
with the applied Maxwell Technologies expertise.

i really hope the maxwell technology make it to the battery soon. We need a 500 or 600 EPA miles mass market EV!!

 

[ggnykk]

My guess is that the base Y will have the MR battery and that there will be no SR battery version, regardless of what they are called. The Y with the SR battery would just be too short range to bother with.

i am thinking the same thing as well.

 

[M3BlueGeorgia]

i am thinking the same thing as well.

Yes, the Y will be a bit heavier and less aerodynamic than the 3, therefore prudent at this time to assume a 10% hit on EPA range.
Y:RWD-LR = 325 * .9 = 293
Y:AWD-LR = 310 * .9 = 279
Y:RWD-MR = 260 * .9 = 234

Possible we might see at some point Y:RWD-SR+ = 240 * .9 = 216

Or the Y won't have a 10% range hit.... Maybe only 5% ?????

Or Tesla adds a little extra battery to each variant of the Y (compared to the 3) to roughly maintain the range.

 

[McManX]

600 EPA miles mass market EV!!

Roadster

 

[Zoomit]

I fully expect a 216mi Y SR RWD using the full capacity of the modules that are in the SR/SR+ packs. There won't be a Y SR+, just a single SR variant.