PhaseWhite
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Went with best of both worlds: A base P3D with 18" aeros. I expect noticeably better range than the 20" wheel option.
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Where Manual = a few threads on the board.What did I miss re: range? Should I RTFM?
YepYeah. D -> LR is very plausible. I can’t really envision a priority structure & prior expectations that gets someone P -> LR?
The EPA highway tests are far from steady state cruising. The torque sleep mode for the front motor probably did not happen much during the EPA highway tests. I feel the AWD and RWD will be much closer in actual steady state cruising than the EPA tests indicate.
EPA test profiles here:
Detailed Test Information
I feel the non-P AWD is the sweet spot for all-around cost-effective performance at this point.
I have read that all EV's were tested by EPA contractors up to this point. Perhaps not according to your link, but in any case cheating on this testing has severe consequences. I expect Tesla tests are accurate and conform perfectly to EPA protocol. We all know the scrutiny that Tesla is subjected to these days.To be clear the EPA has never tested a Tesla afaik. The numbers are self reported by Tesla to the EPA who then posts them.
What's the Amperage on the Level 2 chargers? You'll get roughly 1mile of range/hour for every Amp the L2 charges at. The LR battery (so all three current options) is capable of up to 48A, so 2 hours/day would completely cover your commute, save for the coldest months when you have to run the cabin heater.Still unsure. Slightly disappointed for the following reasons (perhaps someone can convince me to switch to RWD?):
I don't live in snowy areas in Canada but I think I'd appreciate the extra power/traction around corners in the AWD. Someone please convince me to switch to RWD.. will it make that big of a difference?
- I have no home charging (live in condo in Canada with no possibility of setting up 120v or 240v)
- I can only charge at level 2 chargers on the street (2 hour max.. is this sustainable?)
- I have a daily commute of 70km (43 miles)
- My commute involves driving on the highway usually at 120kmh (75mph)
I have read that all EV's were tested by EPA contractors up to this point. Perhaps not according to your link, but in any case cheating on this testing has severe consequences. I expect Tesla tests are accurate and conform perfectly to EPA protocol. We all know the scrutiny that Tesla is subjected to these days.
The sandbagging was done out in the open, following EPA rules, with the underlying true data reported.I'm sure cheating the customer would be illegal, but there are those on this board that continually say the numbers are sandbagged, hiding greater capability than promised.
What's the Amperage on the Level 2 chargers? You'll get roughly 1mile of range/hour for every Amp the L2 charges at. The LR battery (so all three current options) is capable of up to 48A, so 2 hours/day would completely cover your commute, save for the coldest months when you have to run the cabin heater.
((EDIT: You might be able to find the charger Amp rating on here if you don't know. CAA Electric Vehicle Charging Station Locator ))
However 30A is a common L2 output, so you need to check. That would mean that you'd be coming up short about 25miles/day. You could get through the week but would need to go to a SC, or babysit for multiple 2 hrs sessions, to do a full recharge on the weekend.
EDIT2: Wait, is that 70km one-way or 70km round trip? If it's round trip you're going to be golden, even with just a 30A L2 charger in colder months, when your range won't be a good because you have to run the heater to keep the window from fogging up.
The RWD would add a small amount of comfort zone on range but likely wouldn't be critical here.
You can probably count on at least 4 miles per kWh from the battery.I can only charge at level 2 chargers on the street (2 hour max.. is this sustainable?)
You can probably count on at least 4 miles per kWh from the battery.
I'm not sure about Canada, but in the US public L2 is usually either 24 or 32 Amp continuous. So that works out to either 5.76 or 7.68 kW and over two hours either 11.52 or 15.36 kWh from the meter, and about 90% of that amount into the battery.
As for sustainable, in your shoes I would ask myself
1. Am I willing to tolerate the daily connect/disconnect routine until something better becomes available ?
2. How do I handle longer drives ?
Each hour you'll get about 1 mile for each A, so connecting for 2 hours that is 30 miles * 2, or about 60 miles.Per my above details: The charger details are as follows: 30A, 7.2kW. - how much range would I get in 2 hours with that?
I spelled it out for you.how much range would I get in 2 hours with that?
P.S. Is you normal parking underground or at least covered? That'll actually save you range if you don't have to heat your car as much at the start of your trip in colder weather.
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BTW with the Supercharger that close, if it's somewhere near where you'd go on the weekend anyway, with the long range battery you may not even need the use the street parking chargers every day. You could skip a day or two and still easily make it through the week and top off at the SC on the weekend.