honeyfist301
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Looks like it has 265/35 R22 front and 285/35 R22 for rear wheel. Looks awesome!
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Refreshed 2021+ Model X and Model X Plaid waiting room
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Very well put. I agree with all of your points. I am however one of the people who took there offer for the change to 6 seats because I have no car and am desperate. Winter is coming, and it’s not only the weather.
Can I just say how awesome it is to have a conversation online without it getting personal or attacking?? Thank you for being an adult - even if we don't agree on everything, it's great to have a conversation with you!
Not necessarily, and the proof is a few posts up ... if they, say, gave you a discount, what about others in the queue that have been waiting for a 6-seater for months? What about the guy that clicks "buy now" and has a delivery time of May for a 6-seater? Do they all get discounts too? If so -- yeah, that kinda counts as giving the product away.
I can assure you that - even though I currently have a 50-week lead-time on some products and counting -- Cisco isn't offering me any discounts for the wait.
Operational delays are frustrating. Throwing this supply chain debacle on top of it is almost surreal.
That said -- what net value does it have for Tesla to start giving away their most premium product? There really isn't one.
To your point - the supply chain was a mess prior to the Suez Canal blockage. It only exacerbated things. I do agree though -- the communication could and should be much better. That much, we agree on completely.
I get that, and yes it's frustrating, but really no different than the thousands of folks here who lost their vehicles to flooding from Hurricane Ida. Work trucks, police vehicles, personal cars, all sorts of stuff -- just wiped away. And then they find that nobody has replacements. One police department needed a dozen new vehicles... going to be at least a year. They're borrowing police cars from surrounding towns because they simply can't get a car.
Cops using neighboring towns’ patrol cars after theirs were destroyed during Ida flooding
The department had nearly 30 vehicles and other equipment damaged when flood waters invaded its parking lot during the Ida storms.
www.nj.com
So my point being -- Tesla is far, far, far, from alone in delays right now.
It is giving away product. You're still in line for exactly the vehicle you ordered, as soon as they can get it produced. My point of comparing vs. a 2-for-1 deal was simply that if they somehow end up with extra monopod seats, they don't have a pressing need to give them away. They won't spoil -- if it takes an extra month or 3 to move them, it's not a problem.. they're not desperate to offload them. That's all.
I hear you - it's definitely frustrating and definitely irritating. I'm glad I'm not in your situation; we managed to score a Model X in June '20 before the refresh, and I'm happy we did. Just happenstance and luck, that's all.
But there's absolutely no reason for Tesla to give away their premium product due to a delay. If they did it for you, they'd have to do it for everyone that has a 5 or 7 seater on order, and also everyone that ordered a 6-seater originally.
Doesn't make sense to do so, sorry to say... That doesn't salve the wound, but there's no upside and nothing but downside for Tesla to do so.
honeyfist301
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IAMCCF
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Hey man it's easy to be dismissive.... have at it.
I have met 4 Tesla Model X owners here in Massachusetts and they all had fit and finish issues at delivery. One lost his car for 4 weeks, 2 lost their for 2 weeks and one guy refused to drive it off the lot until it was fixed. They were given a Uber credits instead of loaners.
Again, I'm just a customer. you have different expectations. I have expectations as a customer. I don't care about the Tesla stock price (even Elon says it's too high LOL), I don't care about Elon aside from I hope he is happy and healthy. I care about products I buy with my hard earned money.
I have bought a new Ford Explorer every three years since 2000. I never bought Ford Stock or cared about the price, couldn’t tell you who runs Ford and I don't care. I don't care about the UAW or if the cars are made in the US or Mexico. I bought my Ford Explorer's because of build quality, the reliability and comfort. My current 2017 has very comfortable heated and cooled front seats with massage, a killer Bose sound system for only $56K. I do not buy from my local Ford Dealer because their customer service is awful. I drive an extra 10 miles to a dealer that provides exceptional customer service. They earned my business.
In 2018 I decided to go all in with solar, home batteries and a BEV.
Tesla lowered the price of Solar to an affordable / competitive price and there was a 30% tax credit so I bought an 8.19kWh solar panel array with 2 Powerwall2s. It was installed in late 2019 and I began save for my Model X order down payment which I made in 2020. A few months earlier I would have a 2020 Model X and life would be fine. Buying a used Model X now is cost prohibitive since my current order is cheaper then a 2018 with 20k miles. It looks like I'm screwed until some time in Q1/2 when Tesla gets around to the 5 seater configuration.
This is what's so messed up ... the used values are so extreme, it's incomprehensible right now.
I was actually considering selling our current '20 6-seater, ordering a new X and then just lumping along with some beater car until the new X shows up... but that's a lot of work and not a ton of gain for a family vehicle. Especially since my wife hates the yoke (and it'd be her daily driver!) I'd lose the free Supercharging too, which I have to admit has been a great perk.
Would anyone be willing to share the contact name and phone number for "the call" that they have received? I think I'd like to proactively call them to volunteer for the 6-seat upgrade. I really need the car ASAP. No help from the 888 Fremont number or my SA here in NYC. Thank you very much. (Feel free to PM me, if you feel more comfortable.)
DIL
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They sure do. 22’s look amaze-balls.
Does anyone know if the 6 seater version allows to the third row seats to fold flat and recover the upper same trunk space that is lost when the seats are upright? I think there is a very shallow under trunk in the 5 seat version where the third row seat would go, but the top is what I am most curious about.
gglockner
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This is the internet so everyone has an opinion, including me as a long-term Tesla owner.
To paraphrase Churchill, Tesla is the worst car company, except for all other car companies. As I'm second-guessing my current order for a Model X, I have started to look at other vehicles to tow my trailer: Audi Q5, Jeep Cherokee V6 and Volvo XC90 T8. Shopping around reminds me what I adore about my Model S and about Tesla in general, as well as things that drive me mad about Tesla.
First, IMHO, the Tesla sales model is far better than the dealer model. Every dealer has been either clueless or appallingly cloying. I need a specific towing configuration and there's no way I'm going to be sold the wrong model just because you have it on the lot. Second, Tesla controls (apart from the yoke) are so much better than anything else we've seen. Volvo XC 90 controls are terrible, particularly the console screen which feels like a cheap knock-off of Tesla. Those controls were a deal-killer, and disappointing since we loved our 2003 Volvo V70 that preceded our Model S. Ironically, the simple old-school controls of the Jeep are our 2nd favorite. Third, there's no denying that Tesla has the best EVs on the market; my wife won't consider an alternative like Rivian due to the reliable, widespread Supercharger network.
That said, our Model S has been nowhere as reliable as our Toyota Camry Hybrid. The Model S has stranded us a few times over the years. If you need a repair, you have basically one option: Tesla. At least with Apple, I have alternative authorized service centers nearby, and repairs done by Apple themselves get turnaround in a matter of days. Second, the Model X ordering has been a fiasco. Tesla clearly doesn't care about the Model X orders, despite that we're ordering the most expensive product they currently manufacture. In contrast, I had to block the numbers of several local car dealers because they were calling all the time to ask for my business. Last, the arrogance of Tesla is maddening. Someone else posted that the yoke steering wheel is an answer to a question nobody asked. For me, same thing with the falcon wing doors. All I can think of is "great, here's a gimmick that will break down when I'm 500 miles from the nearest service center". I feel the same way about the retracting door handles in my Model S, where the driver side - surprise! - completely failed earlier this year. Frankly, I would pay a premium to have normal doors and handles. "But that won't be cool, hurr durr!", bleat the Tesla apologists.
Tesla is so close to perfect, but they're held back by their own arrogance. Yet here I am, posting on the Tesla fanboy site while I wait for a Model X order.
DIL
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I’m tempted to get the 22’s. Loved the bigger rims on my model s for handling performance and looks. With the X I need the extra range and all-weather capabilities.
I think if I was a SA, I would start following this site, may be more helpful for them, then the comunication from Tesla
Same here, though I know that some on the East Coast (CT, MA, FL) have already received calls -- so it's not just offered to CA / OR / NV customers. 888 Fremont tells me to only speak with my SA. Hopefully someone can share the contact details of the department who is making the upgrade phone calls.
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