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Thanks so much! I’ll do that then. THis will teach me to just wait it out. My current lease on my current car isn’t till April anyways, but if the model X would be ready earlier, I would of course be happy to buy out my Acura lease and sell the car for profit as it seems to be the case. Hopefully requesting from full payment to finance doesn’t change anything in regards to place in line.
If I were you, I’d either leave it as is (you can always change it later) or if you’re going to switch to financing, then fill it out completely. I was told one of the criteria they look for when assigning VINs is profile completeness.
 
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I just received this text. I am in bay area.

Dumb question: I want to do the loan with DCU, should I select cash payment? I thought loan means the financing with Tesla.
 
Oh man. This is crazy. Don’t do it. Yes you’d make a TON of money and command a huge premium, but imagine if someone gets into an accident. You’ll be covered financially but the repairs will take absolutely forever if it’s out of commission and they need parts. And if they have it to total it? It’ll be a battle getting diminished value on it and then you’re also back in line with the rest of us (actually, at the end of it, behind us).

If it’s like your 3rd/weekend car or you don’t care about it much, maybe it could make sense. But I’d never do it personally since it’s going to be our main family car.
Do it. You're in Cali. If you reserve now, you'll probably receive a new car in a few weeks. At least that's the trend right now.
 
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Dumb question: I want to do the loan with DCU, should I select cash payment? I thought loan means the financing with Tesla.

Yes because selecting the loan option walks you through signing up for financing through Tesla.

With the cash option, your bank will cut a check for the cash delivery price minus any down payment for delivery.
 
I usually buy a new car every 4 years (this time will be 5+ years only because of the delivery delays). So my next purchase will likely be in 2026. Will I buy a Tesla then?

My guess is no. Four years is a long time these days. There is more to a company than making a great product. In four years there will be others with great products. The winner among those will be the company who best cares about their customers (or at least gives the strongest impression they care). Tesla has a huge head start now because they are the true innovator, and Elon is a genius. And as has been pointed out, the elimination of car dealerships and the humiliating and time-wasting negotiations over price, has given Tesla a real edge in the customer experience. But realistically there’s nothing more Tesla can do to keep that edge.

Or rather, there is something they could do but that something is not in Elon’s DNA, in fact the reverse is in his DNA—he candidly revealed a while back that he has ASD (autism spectrum disorder) and while that has clearly aided him enormously in his focus and energy devoted to innovation, a hallmark of ASD is problems with social, emotional and communication skills.

Whatever we may feel, Elon does not hate us, he is simply indifferent to us. If he were asked why Tesla doesn’t devote even minuscule attention to his SAs or his customers, his reply would likely be one of confusion: why would anyone do that?

And for the time being, that is fine. I will absolutely love my new refreshed X, whenever it arrives, and will quickly forget the humiliation and frustration he is putting us through. The product will be totally worth it. But in four years’ time, it may be a different story….
I feel as frustrated as you do but I must address a comment you made regarding Autism. As the father of an autistic son I have learned a great deal about this disorder and those who live with it. I'm glad Elon shared his diagnosis and it does in general terms give more color to the man. But to extrapolate that his Autism guides the corporate culture and informs their utter lack of customer centric experience is a stretch. As I have complained in various posts there is an entire senior leadership team with the ability to communicate more to the staff down the chain and provide customers with more information. With Space X, The Borring Co and Neurolink I don't think Elon gets in the weeds of staff and customer communications. His SVPs and VPs are the issue. As long as there is demand they will always feel they are doing it right. I'm with you... After this experience I may not give my money to Tesla again unless things change and the competition doesn't make a equivalent product and better customer experience. When I ordered my Model X it only cost $79k Then added $8,000 to the refresh order which I begrudgingly agreed to. Today's prices are laughable and I would never pay them. When they told me I could get my car sooner if I took a six seater I said sure I'll take a six seater then they wanted an additional $6,500 and I told the guy to kiss my ass! I may get the last White, 5 seat, Long Range they make in 2022 but they are not getting another dime out of me. And yes... I did not buy FSD either.
 
I usually buy a new car every 4 years (this time will be 5+ years only because of the delivery delays). So my next purchase will likely be in 2026. Will I buy a Tesla then?

My guess is no. Four years is a long time these days. There is more to a company than making a great product. In four years there will be others with great products. The winner among those will be the company who best cares about their customers (or at least gives the strongest impression they care). Tesla has a huge head start now because they are the true innovator, and Elon is a genius. And as has been pointed out, the elimination of car dealerships and the humiliating and time-wasting negotiations over price, has given Tesla a real edge in the customer experience. But realistically there’s nothing more Tesla can do to keep that edge.

Or rather, there is something they could do but that something is not in Elon’s DNA, in fact the reverse is in his DNA—he candidly revealed a while back that he has ASD (autism spectrum disorder) and while that has clearly aided him enormously in his focus and energy devoted to innovation, a hallmark of ASD is problems with social, emotional and communication skills.

Whatever we may feel, Elon does not hate us, he is simply indifferent to us. If he were asked why Tesla doesn’t devote even minuscule attention to his SAs or his customers, his reply would likely be one of confusion: why would anyone do that?

And for the time being, that is fine. I will absolutely love my new refreshed X, whenever it arrives, and will quickly forget the humiliation and frustration he is putting us through. The product will be totally worth it. But in four years’ time, it may be a different story….

There is one great hope for tesla. And that is the starship system. Elon may have his mind entirely on getting to Mars in 5 years. That means he'll quit trying to do every tiny bit of Tesla's PR and decision making. You will note that he was not at the last call after the quarterly report. This may be a hint that things are turning our way! Love the guy, but boy does he need to step out of the way in some places. And, he does drive everything as to culture in Tesla right now. So it is his influence that is keeping things as they are.

Realistically there is no other way for this company to grow now. They have to have this extreme focus in order to get the primary job done. Once they get more settled in, Austin and Germany running, I think they'll have time to do things besides production.
 
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Hah I'd be surprised if anyone came out to where I live to pick it up... Actually people probably would.

Edit: actually thinking about it, will have to talk with the wife on it.
Oh man. This is crazy. Don’t do it. Yes you’d make a TON of money and command a huge premium, but imagine if someone gets into an accident. You’ll be covered financially but the repairs will take absolutely forever if it’s out of commission and they need parts. And if they have it to total it? It’ll be a battle getting diminished value on it and then you’re also back in line with the rest of us (actually, at the end of it, behind us).

If it’s like your 3rd/weekend car or you don’t care about it much, maybe it could make sense. But I’d never do it personally since it’s going to be our main family car.
I've actually rented an X on Turo before. I drove that car like it was my own, but I can imagine others might treat a 'rental' situation differently. So I suppose I see where negative thoughts might come from.

But *repairs* ? Slow repairs? That's the reason not to rent your car out on Turo? An entire logic system that requires someone needs to total your car as its premise?

I'm pretty sure you have a fair amount of visibility and control over who gets to touch your car *before* you hand them the keys.

And life is short. And you have the only refresh X in town. And you get to set your own price. And people are often very nice. Surprisingly nice.

A refresh X won't be 'novel' for long. Your posting history here shows you deeply understand that.

Don't let people tell you 'it'll never work'.

Have a little fun, take a little risk, make a buck or two, it's only a car.