Robert Llewellyn's Fully Charged

[CHGolferJim]

Really nice storage and headroom in 3bridges. Anyone had a ride in one to comment on how comfortable it is at highway speed, and in comparison to something?

 

[JRP3]

Robert mentions the KIA soul's battery uses cell technology with a higher energy density than even Tesla's. Is that accurate? I assume it utilizes prismatic cells because only Tesla uses the small cylindrical cell, I believe. This would mean that the prismatic cell technology has already caught up and surpassed the 18650 format. I am a bit skeptical. Does anyone else know more about this?

Kia claims 200 Wh/kg cell level, Tesla/Panasonic is 250 Wh/kg at the cell level.

 

[Yggdrasill]

They might have been talking about volumetric density. Which is a not hugely important metric.

 

[JRP3]

Except they specifically reference gravimetric density in their specs and press release.

 

[William13]

If there is no active heating/cooling in the Kia battery then with close cell gravimetric density the Kia could win. The Kia may also include Tesla's entire pack which has a thick metal shell to prevent punctures from the road. They may not include any structural weight for the Kia battery.

 

[Mayhemm]

Personally, I think it was just PR speak (ie: only in a certain light at a specific angle). They wanted to be able to say they beat Tesla at something.

 

[RobStark]

 

[swaltner]

@1:24 in that video, looks like a Model S passing the ELR on the highway...

 

[Grendal]

Chelsea Sexton is fabulous. It's a great conversation. Llewellyn points out how European city laws will change the EV and EREV landscape.

 

[jdbob]

I noticed when she was talking about how few models there were in the U.S. she conveniently ignored the #2 seller of plug-in vehicles in the U.S. last year - Ford.

 

[sickfox]

awesome clips! some people just get it! :smile:

 

[RobStark]

A year ago Europeans coming to LA spotting Teslas were disappointed. No longer. :smile:

Robert mentioned a year ago that he was talking to his wife about getting a Tesla.

He has not mentioned it lately.

 

[AustinPowers]

Robert mentioned a year ago that he was talking to his wife about getting a Tesla.

He has not mentioned it lately.

Perhaps he bought an e-Golf instead ;-)

Wouldn't even be too unrealistic considering how much he liked all the other Golfs he had in the past.

 

[RobStark]

Perhaps he bought an e-Golf instead ;-)

Wouldn't even be too unrealistic considering how much he liked all the other Golfs he had in the past.

Perhaps the Llewellys concluded the Model S was too much quid (and for tossers:tongue and instead are waiting for Model 3:wink:.

 

[Mayhemm]

I noticed when she was talking about how few models there were in the U.S. she conveniently ignored the #2 seller of plug-in vehicles in the U.S. last year - Ford.

She didn't actually mention BMW either.

 

[Twiglett]

Bobby Lew is a self proclaimed wet liberal and much too conflicted to get a Model S.
He loves it but hates the idea that folks who can afford to by one get "free" charging, but folks who can't have to pay for fuel.

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She didn't say the word BMW but did mention the i3 with Rex.

 

[RobStark]

Bobby Lew is a self proclaimed wet liberal and much too conflicted to get a Model S.
He loves it but hates the idea that folks who can afford to by one get "free" charging, but folks who can't have to pay for fuel.

And yet he said he wanted a Model S but needed to talk to his wife about it(finances).

I think the word "hate" is far too strong. I saw his little monologue on "energy inequality."

Even he knows that used Model 3s will eventually get down to working class folks.

Unlike the Wehrmacht's ICEv they will not be prohibitively expensive to repair.

 

[RobStark]

 

[AustinPowers]

ROFL

I mean I just love Bobby's videos anyway, but this one in particular made my day

 

[Gabzqc]

Wow! The false sound of gasoline explosions added to make us feel nostalgic. Why not add a holigram of a horse's arse in front of the driver to remind us of that old technology too?

MiddleFart... *childish giggle*