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When would the ground typically be suitable for a spring offensive in southern and eastern Ukraine?

The south doesn't get as mucky as further north, doesn't freeze as hard, and dries out sooner. In February 2022 the Russians were able to roll up a lot of territory in the south because the ground was dry enough in many places to support their vehicles. Depending on how severe this winter is, Ukraine may not have much of a pause at all in the south.

Though if this winter is a harsh one the Dnipro will freeze over and so will the Azov Sea. A cold winter will also cause tremendous attrition among Russian troops who are more poorly supplied than they were last winter. Dealing with the cold requires more fuel and more food. They are barely able to supply their units now. If the AFU makes enough progress to bring the M-14 under fire, supply will drop to a trickle and leave 100,000 Russian troops with virtually no supplies to keep themselves alive against a brutal winter.

The Ukrainians have more thermal cameras on drones now than they did last winter. Anybody trying to stay warm with a fire or burning any fuel they manage to scrounge will find themselves under attack.

A cold winter will be rough on both sides, but much, much worse for the Russians. Ukraine has a good NCO corps. NCOs are in charge of maintaining good cold weather discipline. They make sure their troops change their socks, dry out their boots, stay warm enough, etc. Ukraine also has enough donated winter clothing to keep their troops insulated from the cold.

Russia has run out of boots and a lot of men are going into combat wearing street shoes. Something that isn't optimal, but survivable in the summer, but a ticket to frostbite in the winter.

This deserves a read


This was one of the best threads I have read in some time. I read all the quoted threads and articles too. All of them were very substantial.

It all comes down to one conclusion: Russia is in deep trouble.

As long as Russia somehow keeps up the will to fight, they will keep fighting, but their effectiveness is shot and continues to degrade. Russia has already done a number of things that increased their rate of degradation while achieving some short term objectives like their waste of lives capturing Bakhmut. Russia may come up with something that causes consternation and needs to be countered like the Japanese did in late 1944 with the introduction of the kamikazes. But the end result isn't much different.

Kamikazes gave the USN, and allied navies fits in the last year of the war, but while they had some success, they didn't change the outcome of the war one whit. Ultimately got a lot of young men killed and destroyed a lot of airframes. The kamikazes may have contributed to the decision to drop the first atomic bombs on Japan too.

So Russia may come up with dirty trick we haven't thought of, but the reality is that they just don't have the ability to move the needle much. Their forces are too depleted and they don't have the ability to replace their losses in any timeframe close to useful. They have lost so many experienced personnel it will take them at least a decade under peacetime conditions to restore their forces to the quality they had in February 2022. And that would be a dedicated effort free of corruption. Under the post-Soviet Russian system, it will probably never happen.
 
Unless UKR drops a couple of atomic bombs on major Russian cities I don't see the parallels.

Surprise is a factor in war. Most enemies have figured out something unexpected they can do with the resources they have. Russia may still come up with some kind of surprise.

The comment about the US deciding to drop the nuclear weapons on Japan was an illustration of how turning to a surprise tactic that gains a bit of ground short term can lead to long term consequences that are more dire.

In the case of Russia, they have tried various offensive moves that have cost them dearly in terms of lives and equipment and they have gained some ground, but in the long run they have further weakened their army. The quality of the new people arriving on the battlefield are dramatically poorer than the people they are replacing. The equipment arriving on the battlefield is older and poorer quality than the equipment it's replacing. That's the nature of the Lancaster Square Collapse.

The Trent Telenko thread talks about the Russian losses in their officer corps. They are now forced to push senior commanders to the front lines because they don't have the junior officers to lead the troops. That compounds the problems. The senior commanders don't have the time to plan anything, all they are doing is leading small elements of men in tactical situations.

The consequences of pulling stunts to surprise the enemy when you are in a Lancaster Square Collapse are different in each situation. Every time the Russian's try to counterattack they are losing more resources they need to defend their positions which ultimately makes the job easier for Ukraine.

The documented losses from Orynx, which is understandably low, but does give us an idea of the ratios. Even though Ukraine is on the offensive, Russian losses are consistently higher. That's a bad sign for Russia. The only time an army loses more on defense is when they are outmatched.
 

Interesting that the situation around Verbove is moving much faster than round Robotyne. Also interesting that Ukraine was using transport helicopters to deliver supplies into this salient because roads were still under fire control. Shows that they needed to widen the salient significantly and apparently they have started to do so. The situation in verbove was so critical that Russia started using aviation assets to slow the advance. Nothing too surprising but he does a good job explaining things and pieces together all the disparate telegram sources to create a coherent view.
 
some analysts have been wondering why the self propelled artillery has been moved within 5km of the line of conflict. Trent and @wdolson will be pleased to see some making this connection and it would explain the huge artillery losses over the last month as 5km is within drone reach

 
some analysts have been wondering why the self propelled artillery has been moved within 5km of the line of conflict. Trent and @wdolson will be pleased to see some making this connection and it would explain the huge artillery losses over the last month as 5km is within drone reach


Russian artillery, even with new barrels, has shorter range than the NATO guns. They may also be moving them up close to the front to try and bring some Ukrainian guns into their range. The barrels on some guns are probably so worn now who knows where the shells are going.


I would hate to be close by when one of those barrels burst.

EW is real warfare, caused russians to shoot themselves. They could not get a signal out to stop the friendly fire


That's an unexpected bonus for the Ukrainians. Get the enemy to shoot themselves.