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Russia/Ukraine conflict
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navguy12
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Talk is cheap when one of the parties at the table are not acting in good faith.
Saw this unsettling (to put it mildly) two minute video on the Reddit feed today (screenshot); Ukrainian POWs being used as human shields:
Edit: @SwedishAdvocate beat me to it.
"Orban left the room" 
If I'd been there I'd lock the door and make sure he didn't have a key to get back in, ever.
www.pravda.com.ua
If I'd been there I'd lock the door and make sure he didn't have a key to get back in, ever.
âOrbán left the room when we votedâ: EU official explains how decision to open accession talks with Ukraine was made
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán was absent from the room when the European Union leaders voted to open accession negotiations with Ukraine and Moldova, which meant his veto on the decision was not in effect.
www.pravda.com.ua
Russia is running out of prisoners and the ethnic minorities are getting restless. They are largely using the obsolete vehicles because the newer ones were destroyed. And unlike the west, they never decommissioned any old ammunition. They just store it away for a rainy day. Some of that old stuff was very unstable. It's amazing they didn't have any trains blow up.
Russia's stockpiles were built up over decades at Soviet Union production rates which drew from the industrial base of the entire USSR and Warsaw Pact. Their current military production capacity is a shadow of what they could build back in the Soviet days. When the fighting stops they can rebuild, but it's going to be slow and it's going to put a staggering strain on a very weak economy.
One of the scenarios for the end of this war is Russia turns itself into a hermit kingdom like North Korea and converts all possible production into military production. That is the only way they could rebuild the army in anything short of 50 years. If Moscow manages to hold onto the entire country it is a possible scenario. And probably the worst one for NATO.
Just make getting restless a felony. Problem solved.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
EU agrees to formal membership talks for Ukraine | The Hill
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Huge victory for Zelensky as Ukraine to begin ascension to EU | Times Radio
EU agrees to formal membership talks for Ukraine
The European Union announced Thursday it will open ascension negotiations with Ukraine, the largest step yet in the nation’s multiyear push for membership amid its war with Russia. European Council…
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Huge victory for Zelensky as Ukraine to begin ascension to EU | Times Radio
navguy12
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I take it that the impediment to start the process has been removed? So, what does it mean in the big picture? Does it mean the process can now start? Serious question."Orban left the room"
If I'd been there I'd lock the door and make sure he didn't have a key to get back in, ever.
âOrbán left the room when we votedâ: EU official explains how decision to open accession talks with Ukraine was made
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán was absent from the room when the European Union leaders voted to open accession negotiations with Ukraine and Moldova, which meant his veto on the decision was not in effect.
Orban, the impediment, got his 10B bribe to STFU. Hopefully if he pulls a fast one and still blocks Ukraine, they can rescind his bribe.
The bribe was originally going to be not a bribe, but then it was withheld as punishment for
DanCar
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Dems look like they are ready to compromise on border issue.
Biden said earlier this month that he was open to significant concessions on border security to strike a deal with Republicans, but some Democrats have criticized White House proposals reported by Reuters and other news outlets that would limit access to U.S. asylum and step up deportations.
Biden said earlier this month that he was open to significant concessions on border security to strike a deal with Republicans, but some Democrats have criticized White House proposals reported by Reuters and other news outlets that would limit access to U.S. asylum and step up deportations.
Can you imagine the tone of the conversation on the phone to the Kremlin after this?"Orban left the room"
If I'd been there I'd lock the door and make sure he didn't have a key to get back in, ever.
âOrbán left the room when we votedâ: EU official explains how decision to open accession talks with Ukraine was made
Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán was absent from the room when the European Union leaders voted to open accession negotiations with Ukraine and Moldova, which meant his veto on the decision was not in effect.
Well, Putin should have outbid the EU if he wanted a different result.
BitJam
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The Warthog Defense YouTube channel has been taken down.
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IIRC it was a pro-Ukrainian channel with a computerized voice and lots of stock footage. IMHO it was not a great source of timely, accurate information so I had mostly stopped paying much attention to it. But the circumstances for it getting taken down seem fishy. My guess is pro-Russian bots or agents sent in a bunch of complaints. Even though I wasn't a big fan, I hope the channel gets reinstated.
Warthog Defense
Warthog Defense. 1,475 likes · 471 talking about this. Warthog Production brings you up-to-date international news and features on the defense industry, cov
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IIRC it was a pro-Ukrainian channel with a computerized voice and lots of stock footage. IMHO it was not a great source of timely, accurate information so I had mostly stopped paying much attention to it. But the circumstances for it getting taken down seem fishy. My guess is pro-Russian bots or agents sent in a bunch of complaints. Even though I wasn't a big fan, I hope the channel gets reinstated.
Hungary still causing trouble
Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding for Ukraine
Hungary blocks new funding just hours after a deal is struck on starting talks to admit Ukraine to the EU.
www.bbc.co.uk
Tiger
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Hungary still causing trouble
Hungary blocks €50bn of EU funding for Ukraine
Hungary blocks new funding just hours after a deal is struck on starting talks to admit Ukraine to the EU.www.bbc.co.uk
Oust with Hungary already, it clearly wants to donate itself to CCCP.
SwedishAdvocate
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(Bloomberg) -- Russia’s central bank raised interest rates for the fifth time in a row Friday, as policymakers seek to rein in persistent inflation that has far outstripped their target.
The Bank of Russia raised the benchmark to 16% from 15% at its last meeting this year, the highest level since April 2022.
www.bnnbloomberg.ca
The Bank of Russia raised the benchmark to 16% from 15% at its last meeting this year, the highest level since April 2022.
Bank of Russia Hikes Key Rate to 16% in Fight to Curb Inflation - BNN Bloomberg
Russia’s central bank raised interest rates for the fifth time in a row Friday, as policymakers seek to rein in persistent inflation that has far outstripped their target.
www.bnnbloomberg.ca
Yeah, too much carrot imo. Time to apply some stick.
Why Ukraine can beat Russia and why that matters to America
What a difference a year makes. Sadly now the leadership in the US House avoids Ukraine entirely despite the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting to defend western democracy.
What a difference a year makes. Sadly now the leadership in the US House avoids Ukraine entirely despite the fact that the Armed Forces of Ukraine are fighting to defend western democracy.
navguy12
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After I saw this (screenshot below), I guess I have my answer:
So, can individual EU countries take some of their “EU funding” envelope and simply relabel it “Ukraine funding”?
SwedishAdvocate
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They will continue after the holidays.
...] EU leaders decided to return to the discussion in January, Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte said.
Rutte said 26 EU countries were in agreement to provide Ukraine with the money from the EU budget until 2027, but Hungary was against that decision, which requires unanimity.
"We still have some time, Ukraine is not out of money in the next few weeks," [My u.] Rutte told reporters on leaving the talks. [...
And on your question on bi-lateral support:
As I understand it UKR will get bi-lateral support from EU countries in case they can't pass this EU-money thing. See for example this previous post:
Russia/Ukraine conflict
Ukraine's fate was written when they did not generate dirt on Biden (or his son). It would have been equally sealed had they done so. It is sad that this is who we are but it does no good to stick our heads in the sand. In this instance, Ukraine is just one example of collateral damage and...
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SwedishAdvocate
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The surreal Charade continues. The Russian Dictator purports to pass his Feudal empire off as some kind of democracy...
kyivindependent.com
Putin officially nominated as presidential candidate in 2024 election
The group of celebrities who nominated Putin includes pro-Kremlin pop singer Yaroslav Dronov, also known as Shaman; Tatyana Navka, an actress and the wife of Putin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov, and Jeffrey Monson, a U.S.-born boxer who has become a pro-Kremlin regional lawmaker in Russia.
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