Safe to buy used 2020 Model S Performance?

[WSBKing420]

I currently have a 21 Model 3 Performance, my lease is ending soon so I need a new car. I'm considering the 2020 Model S Performance, the 2nd Gen pre interior refresh. I believe it also comes with MCU2. Can anybody with that car advise on whether it's a reliable purchase? I heard they're more reliable than the interior refresh versions but idk.

 

[gaswalla]

yes - it'll be a step up from your 3P and they are reliable, plus you'll be under warranty

 

[beatle]

They're only a few years old so they should be trouble free. I bought my 2019 used last December and had a rear shock replaced right off the bat as it was blown and leaking. That's been the only issue so far.

 

[WSBKing420]

yes - it'll be a step up from your 3P and they are reliable, plus you'll be under warranty

Do you know anything about Tesla extended warranty?

 

[TLLMRRJ]

I heard they're more reliable than the interior refresh versions but idk.

I hadn't heard that.

 

[DerbyDave]

Do you know anything about Tesla extended warranty?

Here is the Tesla Information. I am also considering the extended warranty by X-Care.

Tesla launches new extended service warranty straight from its app

Tesla has launched new extended service warranties for its electric vehicles that can be purchased straight from its mobile app....

electrek.co

 

[WSBKing420]

Here is the Tesla Information. I am also considering the extended warranty by X-Care.

Tesla launches new extended service warranty straight from its app

Tesla has launched new extended service warranties for its electric vehicles that can be purchased straight from its mobile app....

electrek.co

I head good things about it, price also makes sense.. Tesla sells a 2 year warranty for the same price that they sell a 4 year policy for.

 

[itch808]

I am looking at switching up possibly as well. I have a 19 M3 SR+ and a 2023 MYP that I share with the wife and am considering trading/selling the 3 for something bigger and able to go longer on road trips. I'm looking at Raven MS (which I think is 2019-2021?). Are there any known differences in reliability between the trims? My M3 has been straight reliable with zero mechanical issues--would I expect similar reliability? Since I am looking at range more than speed, it seems like the Long Range Plus would be the best?

I am hoping it would not feel like a downgrade with the legacy UI but I highly doubt it since the MS is their flagship sedan. I am seeing though that I would lose out on some convenience things such as side camera repeaters triggering with turn signals and auto cancel of turn signals. Not deal breakers by any means, but it seems odd Tesla would not add this to their flagship sedan.

 

[beatle]

The performance S has a larger rear drive unit. It has been a perennial problem in the older cars with an internal coolant seal that fails and ruins the motor/inverter. I'm not sure if the raven cars still have this flaw. The LR has a smaller rear drive unit that doesn't have this potential problem.

Otherwise the cars are mechanically identical and should be equally reliable.

 

[WSBKing420]

I am looking at switching up possibly as well. I have a 19 M3 SR+ and a 2023 MYP that I share with the wife and am considering trading/selling the 3 for something bigger and able to go longer on road trips. I'm looking at Raven MS (which I think is 2019-2021?). Are there any known differences in reliability between the trims? My M3 has been straight reliable with zero mechanical issues--would I expect similar reliability? Since I am looking at range more than speed, it seems like the Long Range Plus would be the best?

I am hoping it would not feel like a downgrade with the legacy UI but I highly doubt it since the MS is their flagship sedan. I am seeing though that I would lose out on some convenience things such as side camera repeaters triggering with turn signals and auto cancel of turn signals. Not deal breakers by any means, but it seems odd Tesla would not add this to their flagship sedan.

Im looking at the 21 MS Performance which is Raven, I'm assuming, and I'm pretty sure it comes with MCU2 so it should have all the same features when it comes to the side cameras and auto cancel turn signals.

 

[itch808]

The performance S has a larger rear drive unit. It has been a perennial problem in the older cars with an internal coolant seal that fails and ruins the motor/inverter. I'm not sure if the raven cars still have this flaw. The LR has a smaller rear drive unit that doesn't have this potential problem.

Otherwise the cars are mechanically identical and should be equally reliable.

Where can I read more about this? I tried a google search but came up with nothing. I just test drove a 2023 MS LR and fell in love but I can't stand the turn signals/stalkless wheel and horn "button". Plus I am not sure it's worth the "value" they are asking. A used Raven LR+ or Performance seems like a better bargain. And I won't be fumbling ever second trying to signal.

 

[TLLMRRJ]

Where can I read more about this? I tried a google search but came up with nothing. I just test drove a 2023 MS LR and fell in love but I can't stand the turn signals/stalkless wheel and horn "button". Plus I am not sure it's worth the "value" they are asking. A used Raven LR+ or Performance seems like a better bargain. And I won't be fumbling ever second trying to signal.

The lack of stalks is annoying at first, but after 6+ months of driving, the lack of stalks is annoying.

 

[itch808]

The lack of stalks is annoying at first, but after 6+ months of driving, the lack of stalks is annoying.

The haptic buttons are just....not right. I've ridden motorcycles for several years and it's easier to signal with numb fingers in 35F weather going 80mph with thick winter gloves. They need to do away with touch sensitive buttons. Going to try test drive a Raven MS tomorrow as a father's day present to myself

 

[TLLMRRJ]

The haptic buttons are just....not right. I've ridden motorcycles for several years and it's easier to signal with numb fingers in 35F weather going 80mph with thick winter gloves. They need to do away with touch sensitive buttons. Going to try test drive a Raven MS tomorrow as a father's day present to myself

And now I heard they are doing the same mistake to the high volume 3 and Y!

 

[beatle]

Where can I read more about this? I tried a google search but came up with nothing. I just test drove a 2023 MS LR and fell in love but I can't stand the turn signals/stalkless wheel and horn "button". Plus I am not sure it's worth the "value" they are asking. A used Raven LR+ or Performance seems like a better bargain. And I won't be fumbling ever second trying to signal.

There are a few threads on the forum. This is a good place to start:

Have your service center check large rear drive unit for coolant leakage before warranty expires

I want to thank ajbessinger for his information on rear drive unit failure (sorry can't find the thread) and how to check the speed sensor for coolant leakage. My 2/15 p85D with original drive unit was showing no failure symptoms, but I asked the service center to check the speed sensor for...

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