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Tesla has no problems with you or anyone else doing repairs. The schematics and service manuals are free to anyone. Now some people are not qualified to do high-voltage repairs and for that reason, Tesla does have some small restrictions on select parts to reduce homeowners from killing themselves. Even those procedures for HV repairs are documented.

So I guess you have problems with all those other companies, but I don't think you should lump Tesla in with them - since anyone can do Tesla repairs.

There are already some independent shops that do Tesla repairs such as Gruber Motors, 057 Technology, and Electric Garage.

On the contrary, Tesla does everything they can to prevent people from doing any service to major components on these cars, despite the good PR of providing some service information publicly nowadays.

The only reason my shop can do what it does, for example, is because we've put in the effort to reverse engineer so much of the vehicle in order to find workarounds for Tesla's stonewalling on repair and modification. Nearly nothing we do is thanks to any official Tesla tools or service info. We made pretty much everything ourselves, from scratch, and not just because we started doing this well before Tesla released any service info at all.

Tesla doesn't want these cars repaired. They want you to trash it and buy a new one. The salvage recertification "inspection" is a complete joke, as illustrated well by the anecdote above that tracks well with what I've seen for many people. Some make it through their process, but almost always at some ridiculous cost beyond the inspection fee for one convoluted reason or another. The company culture seems to shun service folks who are allowing salvages to pass the inspection. Not directly and openly, but there's a clear trend there.

Suffice it to say Tesla is one of the least pro-consumer companies I've ever dealt with. And that will continue to be the case until a customer can walk into a service center, give them the part number for a major component (battery pack or drive unit), pay for it (reasonable cost), and drive off with it in the back of a truck no questions asked............... like pretty much every other manufacturer.
 
Ok, consider me chastised. I was thinking more of the 99% of issues owners encounter and their ability to repair them. I've had no problems getting parts from Tesla from 2013 to fairly recently on a variety of years and models.

Now I've never needed or tried to buy a battery pack or a DU from Tesla. The battery and drive units are in a special category and would be nice to have more support and availability of parts for those that are competent. I see valid concerns from Tesla should some clueless person attempt to repair a 400V pack and get killed or do a hack DU job and sell it to someone. I can see this causing legal liability for Tesla and damaging its reputation. Still for those in the know, I agree that Tesla could be more accommodating and make HV parts available with some kind of release or shop validation process.

I wonder how other EV makers are handling these parts and repairs. Can anyone buy a Hummer battery from GM? Does Lucid sell its' motors? Does Rivian make schematics and service manuals available? I'm not quite sure the industry has figured out EVs yet and how the owner might safely do HV repairs. Hopefully, it will get sorted out, but I fear it could be a long while. Tesla is at the forefront (not in a good way) due to the age of its oldest vehicles.
 
Yep WizKid is one of the originals, and did his own work which is significant and impressive, although I'm working on another solution for my fscking brick. Idk if he even works on problems like mine.

Back then we had -nothing- to go on and the few of us had to figure out everything ourselves. Finally hacked docs started getting leaked, then those in Massachusetts started releasing the whole service manual, unauthorized. (MA is a Right to Repair state) It didn't help with rooting though and I was the only one to publicize that info and more, to this day. Finally since the cat was out of the bag anyway, Tesla opened up the parts list and service manual, and even a lobotomized Toolkit for a high fee.

I urge everyone to support these two federal Right to Repair bills which are pending now. Of course I have my own selfish reasons as I'm planning on a different expensive EV which is far better than anything Tesla has, and doesn't kill people on 'Self-Driving'. No Elon, cameras alone does na-ha-ha-hot cut it.

PS - Electrified Garage is -not- qualified. I watched Rich from his first flooder and although he has the will, he just does not have the technical skills. No idea who Gruber is nor where they came from.
 
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Yep WizKid is one of the originals, and did his own work which is significant and impressive, although I'm working on another solution for my fscking brick. Idk if he even works on problems like mine.

Back then we had -nothing- to go on and the few of us had to figure out everything ourselves. Finally hacked docs started getting leaked, then those in Massachusetts started releasing the whole service manual, unauthorized. (MA is a Right to Repair state) It didn't help with rooting though and I was the only one to publicize that info and more, to this day. Finally since the cat was out of the bag anyway, Tesla opened up the parts list and service manual, and even a lobotomized Toolkit for a high fee.

I urge everyone to support these two federal Right to Repair bills which are pending now. Of course I have my own selfish reasons as I'm planning on a different expensive EV which is far better than anything Tesla has, and doesn't kill people on 'Self-Driving'. No Elon, cameras alone does na-ha-ha-hot cut it.
Nice! I’m sure you’ll enjoy the Rimac. The concept one was great, can’t imagine how well their tech will trickle into the Bugatti nameplate.
 
Tesla doesn't want these cars repaired. They want you to trash it and buy a new one.
Indeed they don’t.
Suffice it to say Tesla is one of the least pro-consumer companies I've ever dealt with. And that will continue to be the case until a customer can walk into a service center, give them the part number for a major component (battery pack or drive unit), pay for it (reasonable cost), and drive off with it in the back of a truck no questions asked............... like pretty much every other manufacturer.
That’s it. My experience is a bit more convoluted: “officially” (TN 18-00-001 R3) Tesla offers support to salvage vehicles that have not passed the HV inspection for anything unrelated to HV components. On the other hand, Tesla offers support for gray vehicles “whenever it’s feasible”. In practice I was denied service for a software (software!) problem, obviously unrelated to HV, and obviously feasible in a gray vehicle.

Fortunately here in Europe consumer rights are strictly enforced. After TOO MUCH back and forth, getting tired and preparing a complain for the relevant consumer associations, they told me no need to do that, they will see my car. But they make it look like they are being nice, whereas what it’s happening here is that I’m enforcing their own policy on them.
 
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Hello.
I'm rebuilding my tesla model s 2015. All airbags and belts are already replaced. Also I made a reset of the airbag SRS ECU. But after installing it on it's place the airbag light is on.
Can anyone help me to solve this problem? Must I make the redeployment (or new install or Updete ) of the software to get airbag light off?
Please Help
Thanks
 
No. Make sure the pyrofuse of the 12V is ok. Check all the connections with the seat belts and the airbags. If it still does not go away, then the SRS module was not cleared properly. It happened to me, and I had to resend it to be cleared. You can use a T-Can or a different diagnostic tool to see if indeed it is the SRS module.
 
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To be clear, if everything is ok, the airbag light should go away on its own. Check that all the connections are ok. The 12V pyro is tricky. I had to replace a knee aribag, and the one that arrived had a different plastic housing for the connector, so I transplanted the old one into the new one. The problem of the housing might happen with the belts, the pyro, any airbag… So make sure everything is in order. If it is and the airbag light does not go, it means the crash data has not been properly cleared.

Do you have air suspension? Did you clear the crash data in the suspension module too? If you didn’t, you might have the same problemz
 
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@M0rpH3x First of all thank you for your quick answer.
I sent dump file from my SRS ECU to the Guy from ebay and he removed all crash data and sent it to me back. After that I wrote it to the eeprom and installed the ECU to its place. All connection are ok. But the 12v pyrofuse is from Mercedes, which is exactly same as from tesla. only the connection port from the top is not matching and I removed the plastic int the connection port and connected the cable to it without it! Can it be the problem?
I have no Alerts in the notification section. Is it ok?
Local tech guy told me that after SRS ECU reset there must be done some reset job with toolbox
 
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Well, I checked all connectors and they are all ok. I contacted the guy who made the reset for me and told him that it is not working. He asked me to remove pyrofuse connector and check if I get alert in the notification menu. I did it and unfortunately I get no alerts. This means that the srs ecu is not working. I wrote him all this and first he wrote me back that the clear dump file seems to be ok. But than he wrote me that "It looks like somebody else reset your module before". But this is not possible because I by myself removed the SRS ECU and no one but only I have access to the car.
Is it possible that if car was before me in accident someone made the reset job of the ECU and now the second reset is not working any more?
AND one thing more: My module P/N is 1032224-00-A and hi had on ebay advertised that he is working on the moldules 1032224-00-B. Is it possible that he made crash data clearing process according to module 1032224-00-B with my module 1032224-00-A and it is not working because they are somehow different?
 
Hi @nicog.
I have no idea about multiple SRS resets. Everything should work, and if it doesn’t, either the module is not properly reset, or there is something I don’t know.

Before giving up, I’d try another way of reseting it. It’s good that TAS works, the crash data must have been properly cleared there.
 
Looking for advice from the wealth of knowledge that is the internet. Appreciate everyone’s contributions to the community and efforts in finding work arounds.

I have been reading as much as I can from these forums as have noticed many have put in a lot of time and money into learning how to tinker with these amazing vehicles. If others haven’t given proper credit, I’ll be the first. Without the sharing of knowledge the world progress very slowly. So bravo to all those who acquired and then spread these valuable and help pieces of information to others throughout the world.

Now on to my dilemma. I am a huge car nerd and tinker with every single car I’ve ever owned. My collection has now started going electric reception, and I’m in love! I purchased a new Model 3 Performance in 2020 and it really opened my eyes.

After seeing the benefits of going electric I started looking for something I’d not worry about voiding the warranty on for the wife. I came across a listing for a Models P85 with a dead battery. I went to go see it and struck a deal with the previous owner.

Now this is where things got interesting. My plan was to buy a full set of replacement modules online and swap them out. Sounded simple enough and in practice once I got all the right calculations and equipment it was fairly easy. But once I got the pack out I was met with a surprise.

Apparently the pack had been opened and sealed up with 10 lbs of silicon, I immediately contacted the previous owner and he said he took the car to a local independent battery repair “specialist” who claimed they service Tesla batteries. They provided him with a quote for $7000 for 3 modules and he denied the work then proceed to sell the car to me.

The problem got worse when I opened the top cover to find 3 inches of water inside the tray and a number of modules completely missing. They opened the tray did monkey business then attempted to seal it but clearly they didn’t. And due to the vast amount of rain in the area the windshield drain hose above the penthouse flooded the tray and the modules they left behind.

Frustrated but still convinced I could find a replacement tray and associated components it continued on. I purchased a used tray complete and installed 16 5.3 kWh packs from 2016+ build. Plug and play right… or so I thought.

Yesterday I got the replacement tray and batteries in. Installed a new 12v. Got it powered up the IC came up and showed 50 miles range, but had a number of errors, and the Center Display only shows reverse camera and no menus.

- Charge port
- Service (Unable to Start)
- Software Update Required

I started looking into rooting, and redeploy options but thought I’d reach out and bring you guys along this journey as there are clearly many great minds with a lot of insight.

I’d love to tow it to Tesla. But your guy isn’t trying to get blacklisted for doing his own battery swap. Haha. Hence I’m trying to get help from Salvage side though my car is technically not salvaged. Thanks again guys!