PastorDave
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I've done what you're thinking of doing with the MMD. TSLA tends to follow technical supports and resistances fairly well, so if it's at a support, buying a call can work out. What I've found is that it can also go against you pretty easily, and there's little recourse when buying. If you're day trading, I've done pretty well just watching the stock bounce around 4-5 points near resistance or support. Many days once the stock settles down it just stays in a tight range like that.Sorry if this is OT to the thread and more of a general options question.
@Knightshade was pointing out this morning it's best to monetize the MMD via options for leverage. Certainly makes sense and I fully understand the basic(non-spread) aspects of options. I'm thinking about getting started with actual cash and just want to make sure my strategy is near optimal. Also would be interested in ways to similarly attack the MMD but maybe with something less than total risk.
SP today immediately made a beeline for $705. Nothing new, we see this MMD action on more days than we don't. I want to simply buy calls near the bottom and sell at the recovery. I understand being wrong here means a total loss, but I'm fairly confident in targeting only the most obvious soon-to-recover MMD's.
Today for instance......at 10:20am with SP sitting at $703-705 an 8/13 $705c was priced around $8.30-9.00, then by 12:20 had recovered to $16. If I focus most heavily on Mon/Tues/Wed MMD's, I have to think I can squeeze out a reliable profit and perhaps hit some home runs. Any not-advice other than the obvious caveats of this being an obvious strategy that's very very hard to get right in a notoriously irrational and manipulated market? Should I get more complex to limit losses when wrong? Only buy slightly ITM calls? Only buy slightly OTM calls? Intra-week expirations vs slightly further out?
Thanks for any help. This thread is phenomenal.
If you're looking to limit your risk, I can suggest 2 options for my not-advice. The first is what you're suggesting, just buying calls. Your risk is what you paid for the calls. That's fine, but if the MMD doesn't reverse, you don't have much of a recourse but to take a loss. Time value is against you when buying options. I imagine that's a reason most of the people in this thread are selling options rather than buying; you win even if the stock does nothing.
The second way to limit risk in your example is to sell a put spread (BPS), which is selling a put, then buying another put at a lower strike price. Eg, sell the 705p and buy the 695p. That also limits your risk to the spread amount (10 x 100) - credit on the spread, but you get the benefit of winning even if the stock price just sits at 705 for the rest of the week. Also, you have the option to roll the spread to the following week if the stock price drops beyond what you think is reasonable. Selling a 100 wide spread like most of the folks on this forum are doing (as am I) is functionally the same risk as selling a naked put, unless TSLA drops over 100 points out of nowhere, so keep that in mind.
Btw, just found this tread this week and I'm thrilled. Thanks so much to everyone for sharing your trades! I've been selling options on TSLA seriously for about 3 months and am doing about 10k per week, although I've had some expensive lessons along the way. I'm not sure what I have to offer, but I'll try to share some of my lessons in a future post.