I don't know. What is the average weight of a Semi load in Texas? (I doubt they normally gross out at 80k.)
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Semi General Discussion
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Aero/speed impacts range much more than weight, but it's a fair point.
Rivian lost 7% of total range with it's maximum payload vs. unloaded.
I'm sure it's been thought out with the distances, just thinking about 70-80% charge instead of 100% and then the difference in speed, but I guess they could just limit the max speed and avoid that issue.
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Yep. I assume Tesla knows the capabilities of their trucks and the details of their loads/routes and would plan their charging network accordingly. It might not be sufficient for the competition especially if the chargers installed for them are just 350kW CCS.
80mph is typical in many areas. Seems crazy and unsafe, but its the speed limit and most drivers are hustling to make the delivery.
They've sold, what, less than 40 to Pepsi/Frito-Lay. How do you think they could feasibly accomplish this?
There's more risk than reward. One could break down, they don't have chargers for the Semi in that area, etc. There's no reason for it.
Tesla Has Made 70 Semi Trucks, Sharing Parts with Cybertruck & Plaid Cars
Tesla has already produced around 70 Semi trucks, which was revealed during an exclusive interview.
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Tesla has produced "about 70" Semis, which include the first 36 delivered to Pepsi last December.
So in the last 10 months, they've produced about 35 more, or less than one per week.
Right, clearly just beta production and testing. Regarding vehicle weights. Guys trucks are heavy. An f350 with a diesel engine comes in at 12k lbs if we are being honest. Here are some benchmarks for you guys
Day cab (this is a Semi with no sleeper compartment) 20k lbs.
Trailer: average flat bed 10k lbs, box will add a bit. Anyway say 15k lbs to be saafe. Y
Total is about 35k lbs add a few thousand more if a semi cab with sleeping compartment.
Our 3 bunk (6 posts) log trailer with headache rack (protective shield between the trailer and tractor to keep cargo from crashing into the cab in an accident) is about 12k lbs. Just example of niche solid steel trailer.
You can game the truck weights all you want on light vehicles but for Semi's crossing scales everything is known. Just get in a CA DMV weigh station and watch it cross scales. The trailer is not going to be far off what I've listed here.
Day cab (this is a Semi with no sleeper compartment) 20k lbs.
Trailer: average flat bed 10k lbs, box will add a bit. Anyway say 15k lbs to be saafe. Y
Total is about 35k lbs add a few thousand more if a semi cab with sleeping compartment.
Our 3 bunk (6 posts) log trailer with headache rack (protective shield between the trailer and tractor to keep cargo from crashing into the cab in an accident) is about 12k lbs. Just example of niche solid steel trailer.
You can game the truck weights all you want on light vehicles but for Semi's crossing scales everything is known. Just get in a CA DMV weigh station and watch it cross scales. The trailer is not going to be far off what I've listed here.
Here is an example of a purpose built PHEV Semi for the logging industry:
Certainly, no frills in the cab.
Certainly, no frills in the cab.
Yes if we can get a Tesla semi it will literally change the economics on tens of thousands of acres of land just in our region. We'd be able to restore degraded forests, stop invasives, and make a $. Right now logistics is a killer and fuel costs are a huge % of that.
Do you think the Tesla Semi is built to handle logging roads? Thats a pretty brutal use case and something a truck built for highway use won’t work for.
Maybe it was built with that level of durability in mind, but its doubtful as it would be too heavy for highway use.
Hybrid makes sense to me, but the cost is so high Im not sure it would drum up enough business to break even. I thought Hyllion was going to make it with the hypertruck serial hybrid with CNG engine, but they decided to get out of the business even after getting CARB approval. That tells me there isn’t much market out there until emission regs force it, or costs come down for electrification equipment.
Good question but most of our logging roads really are not anything special, on the west coast you may have 10 miles or more of gravel before you hit hardtops. We bring our logs within a 1/4 mile of a county road and that 1/4 mile is not anything special. Sometimes we drive trucks right into fields, if a toyota scion can handle the roads a tesla semi should. That said the logging truck reviewed by Munro is a special built truck, they will just make a couple a year. Good for them though, it was a perfect logging truck.
Tesla semis at the prices they talked about will be a huge win for the environment because it will just make diesel trucks uncompetitive. Not the price of the truck but the fuel. 30k gallons a year of diesel/truck for an average 150k mile annual use, over $4/gallon that is quite a chunk of change
Tesla semis at the prices they talked about will be a huge win for the environment because it will just make diesel trucks uncompetitive. Not the price of the truck but the fuel. 30k gallons a year of diesel/truck for an average 150k mile annual use, over $4/gallon that is quite a chunk of change
