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Do you know how did they order 1000 model 3s when it's limited to 2 per person?
dmckinstry
Model X 2019
What I'd like to know Julian is; "When a true short squeeze occurs, how far will the SP fall after its new ATH back toward the previous ATH before it stabilizes?" My thought is the larger the squeeze, the larger the fall. For example, if it goes to $600 I expect it to drop afterward a good deal more than if it goes to $400.
Would you care to speculate on how far it will drop ( back to, or below the price just before the squeeze)after reaching $300, $400, $500, etc.?
Thanks for any insight.
Hardly a fleet, but in the Amsterdam ordering queue two persons together ordered a total of seven cars. The two car limit was per creditcard.
Right except "The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent"
Hogfighter
Professional Lurker
I love it when pundits claim, 'questions remain regarding (insert topic here).....'.
If there were such a thing as a sure thing, the stock price would reflect that. There are always going to be questions.
Not me Norse.
But I'm sure those already motivated to own or control or lease out a fleet of M3s will be inadvertently evangelising to the not yet converted. All good!
I'm sure this has been discussed here already, but here goes anyway...
Options Investor Bets Tesla Rally Is Losing Its Charge
Someone sold 693 $260 calls expiring Friday for $2.20 each. Netting $152,460. Once Tesla shares hit $262.20, he/she has lost the $152,460. Every $1.00 Tesla goes over $262.20, options writer is out of pocket $69,300.
Welcome to the House of Pain!
Anyone here want to fess up to buying up those 693 contracts
RT
Options Investor Bets Tesla Rally Is Losing Its Charge
Someone sold 693 $260 calls expiring Friday for $2.20 each. Netting $152,460. Once Tesla shares hit $262.20, he/she has lost the $152,460. Every $1.00 Tesla goes over $262.20, options writer is out of pocket $69,300.
Welcome to the House of Pain!
Anyone here want to fess up to buying up those 693 contracts
RT
First and formost I have no relationship with MarkIt. I just happen to have access to it. This is what MarkIt says about it's sources:
"
Markit Securities Finance is the leading global provider of securities financing data and daily long and short institutional fund flow insight.
Based in New York, London and Hong Kong, the company's predictive analytics help clients identify investment opportunities and manage risk by analyzing fund flow, stock loan availability, short interest and stock lending volume.
Established in 2002, Markit Securities Finance's unique content set of more than three million daily transactions is sourced directly from contributing customers across securities financing, including Investment Banks, Prime Brokers, Lending Agents, Beneficial Owners and Hedge Funds.
"
So there *might* be some sauce on top of the raw data to normalize it with exchange data. But it is in fact based on some real data. Not just fictional imagination.
Genuine questions:
- How do you *know* markIt is wrong? Have you cross checked markit against exchange data?
- How you *know* a squeeze is happening, other than gut instinct? do you have any data to back it up?
Separately, I am not sure why you are getting so worked up about this. Why does it matter? it's better with a rally if they aren't squeezed yet, no? That would mean an even bigger up run. So we should be happier (on the long side). So why sweat?
"
Markit Securities Finance is the leading global provider of securities financing data and daily long and short institutional fund flow insight.
Based in New York, London and Hong Kong, the company's predictive analytics help clients identify investment opportunities and manage risk by analyzing fund flow, stock loan availability, short interest and stock lending volume.
Established in 2002, Markit Securities Finance's unique content set of more than three million daily transactions is sourced directly from contributing customers across securities financing, including Investment Banks, Prime Brokers, Lending Agents, Beneficial Owners and Hedge Funds.
"
So there *might* be some sauce on top of the raw data to normalize it with exchange data. But it is in fact based on some real data. Not just fictional imagination.
Genuine questions:
- How do you *know* markIt is wrong? Have you cross checked markit against exchange data?
- How you *know* a squeeze is happening, other than gut instinct? do you have any data to back it up?
Separately, I am not sure why you are getting so worked up about this. Why does it matter? it's better with a rally if they aren't squeezed yet, no? That would mean an even bigger up run. So we should be happier (on the long side). So why sweat?
The high volume these days looks like shorts covering too. I don't like it happening now because when we're at 300, there won't be as much short interest as before. As a result, there would be less buyers (urgent ones) to push the stock higher.
Of course that could be someone with an actual position they are writing covered calls against. They are hoping they will expire worthless but otherwise will happily take the effective sale price of $262.20 for their stock position.
Johan
Ex got M3 in the divorce, waiting for EU Model Y!
I'm sure this has been discussed here already, but here goes anyway...
Options Investor Bets Tesla Rally Is Losing Its Charge
Someone sold 693 $260 calls expiring Friday for $2.20 each. Netting $152,460. Once Tesla shares hit $262.20, he/she has lost the $152,460. Every $1.00 Tesla goes over $262.20, options writer is out of pocket $69,300.
Welcome to the House of Pain!
Anyone here want to fess up to buying up those 693 contracts
RT
I had 10 of those, not the original trade (I bought yesterday) but I've flipped them. Hopefully it was the original seller who had to buy them back from me
. One man's gain is another man's pain.
Hogfighter
Professional Lurker
I'm sure this has been discussed here already, but here goes anyway...
Options Investor Bets Tesla Rally Is Losing Its Charge
Someone sold 693 $260 calls expiring Friday for $2.20 each. Netting $152,460. Once Tesla shares hit $262.20, he/she has lost the $152,460. Every $1.00 Tesla goes over $262.20, options writer is out of pocket $69,300.
Welcome to the House of Pain!
Anyone here want to fess up to buying up those 693 contracts
RT
Don't fight the tape.
There will be no prepayments. There are plenty of other funding sources both within and in addition to the capital markets. Taking any payment for the car as opposed to just a place on a reservation list commits Tesla to selling the car and that would fundamentally alter the leverage that external finance has vs Tesla.
The opportunity to deliver a million cars to deposited reservation holders Is staggeringly positive. The obligation to deliver a million cars when you can't do it without the help of external capital is the exact opposite - staggeringly negative. That's how you get pwned.
Musk too smart for that, product too good.
MartinAustin
Active Member
doggusfluffy
Closed
Can we expect an announcement regarding Panasonic reacting to the projected staggering demand for Gigafactory batteries from the off the hook stationary and now Model 3 demand too?
263, love it!
Not sure if I'm considered long or not. I bought a pile in mid February at 145 and then 165, and am currently 60% up. However, here in Belgium they recently introduced a "speculation tax" - 33% of all profits deducted at source for all shares sold within 6 months of purchase. However, sell after 6 months + 1 day and there's no tax due - none at all, you don't even need to declare it.
So if I were to sell now, I hand-over €9k to the authorities, so I think I'd rather wait... It makes day-trading impossible, but that's perhaps a good thing, because then I'd never get any work done
Not sure if I'm considered long or not. I bought a pile in mid February at 145 and then 165, and am currently 60% up. However, here in Belgium they recently introduced a "speculation tax" - 33% of all profits deducted at source for all shares sold within 6 months of purchase. However, sell after 6 months + 1 day and there's no tax due - none at all, you don't even need to declare it.
So if I were to sell now, I hand-over €9k to the authorities, so I think I'd rather wait... It makes day-trading impossible, but that's perhaps a good thing, because then I'd never get any work done
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