This should give some big money a chance to think where they should park their money.The market is reacting to AAPL miss (-7.59%), apparently taking us with it, for the moment at least.
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This should give some big money a chance to think where they should park their money.The market is reacting to AAPL miss (-7.59%), apparently taking us with it, for the moment at least.
Ho Ho Ho!
"For more info on Tesla Energy, check out press kit. $250/kWh for utility scale is the real kicker"
Hee Hee Hee! Your PhD in ValueSeeking should inform you that many many MANY things are cheaper by the dozen.
Utility Scale: $250/kWh (not $200)
Small Order: $470/kWh if you're buying 2 or 4 or so. Neighborhood scale. No contradiction here. What Utility would only buy a handful of Powerpacks?
Ha ha HA. Goo-goo goo-joob. /walrus
Let's assume you're right and utilities have to pay $470/kWh even when they buy in volume. That would mean that TE's profit margin is now much higher than previously assumed. So your gripe is that Elon Musk changed his pricing strategy, grabbing every last penny that was just sitting there on the table looking pretty. And that is so grossly unfair, right?Kindly inform me where I can buy them for $250/kwh. At 54 power packs, the biggest system Tesla allows, the price is still $470/kwh.
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Let's assume you're right and utilities have to pay $470/kWh. That would mean that TE's profit margin is now much higher than previously assumed. So your gripe is that Elon Musk changed his pricing strategy, grabbing every last penny that was just sitting there on the table. And that is so grossly unfair, right?
Yes. So unfair.
He's not going to sell a $50K car for $35K.
I was trying to talk him into it. Can't a rhino play with his food?There's no point trying to talk someone fundamentally bearish out of their misery.
Kindly inform me where I can buy them for $250/kwh. At 54 power packs, the biggest system Tesla allows, the price is still $470/kwh.
The market is reacting to AAPL miss (-7.59%), apparently taking us with it, for the moment at least.
There's no point trying to talk someone fundamentally bearish out of their misery.
TE raises prices in order to make money: Elon is a liar.
Competitor makes unattractive EV: EVs are a failure, Tesla will fail.
Competitior makes attractive EV: Tesla killer will make Tesla fail.
Tesla raises cash in order to grow faster: Tesla needs cash to stay afloat for another year.
The AAPL miss is one of the biggest reasons I have been holding a big cash position. It already is causing a 1% drop of the NASDAQ 100 and will likely cause a downdraft on TSLA too. Would be happy to be wrong, but I wouldn't mind a lower entry point anyways.
Kindly inform me where I can buy them for $250/kwh. At 54 power packs, the biggest system Tesla allows, the price is still $470/kwh.
Chocolate is delicious: Tesla will fail. Am I the only one who read that post as if it was beat poetry?
Yeah, the hits to GOOG, MSFT, AAPL don't bode well for a long position.
Yes, awaiting response.
@jesselivenomore @Johan @FredTMC
At the end of the day we are all talking about the same ingredients:
- Capital raise
- Short squeeze
- Stock run up big time
The only difference is the timeline and the sequence.
I firmly believe the stock run up + short squeeze will happen ahead of any capital raise.
Like someone said a long time ago, the first rule of capital raise is you don't talk about capital raise. Elon said there was no need to raise capital literally three days before they raised capital last time.
Talking about big expenditure plans and saying they will raise capital will totally put them in a vulnerable position. Now they *need* money. Shorts will drool all over it. They are in a much better bargaining position.
Infact one of the big motives of shorts' shorting is to keep the stock price compressed such that the financing costs for the firm are higher and that creates a self-fulfilling cycle of badness. There is no way that Musk will give any chance of bargaining power to the shorts.
The game is very clear here. Show a blowout quarter or two. Disprove one of the fundamental tenets of shorts that Tesla loses money (or can never make money) on every car it sells. Create a big run up. Get the shorts to the table as counter-parties. Get the deal done.
@jesselivenomore @Johan @FredTMC
At the end of the day we are all talking about the same ingredients:
- Capital raise
- Short squeeze
- Stock run up big time
The only difference is the timeline and the sequence.
I firmly believe the stock run up + short squeeze will happen ahead of any capital raise.
Like someone said a long time ago, the first rule of capital raise is you don't talk about capital raise. Elon said there was no need to raise capital literally three days before they raised capital last time.
Talking about big expenditure plans and saying they will raise capital will totally put them in a vulnerable position. Now they *need* money. Shorts will drool all over it. They are in a much better bargaining position.
Infact one of the big motives of shorts' shorting is to keep the stock price compressed such that the financing costs for the firm are higher and that creates a self-fulfilling cycle of badness. There is no way that Musk will give any chance of bargaining power to the shorts.
The game is very clear here. Show a blowout quarter or two. Disprove one of the fundamental tenets of shorts that Tesla loses money (or can never make money) on every car it sells. Create a big run up. Get the shorts to the table as counter-parties. Get the deal done.
Thanks!Yes. Confirmed folks. CONFIRMED.
MS "all-in" pack cost is less than $190/kWh
Also, Jeff said this LAST week. Apparently call was last week (possibly) or a different outlet. Regardless. It's confirmed.
Yes. Confirmed folks. CONFIRMED.
MS "all-in" pack cost is less than $190/kWh