Why are there no government fuel economy standards for EVs?
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Why are there no government fuel economy standards for EVs?
There are. There is a standard how range is measured and MPGe.Why are there no government fuel economy standards for EVs?
There are. There is a standard how range is measured and MPGe.
Yes, that is what I meant. Government regulations like there are on ICE vehicles.Maybe I'm misreading, but when I hear standards I think regulations or minimums
And why do guys who fix ICE cars give me dirty looks?Why are there no government fuel economy standards for EVs?
Why are there no government fuel economy standards for EVs?
And why do guys who fix ICE cars give me dirty looks?
I don't. There is no need for government intervention in fuel efficiency standards. What is good for the EV is good for the ICE.Why do you feel government intervention is needed here?
Why are there no government fuel economy standards for EVs?
Yes, this makes no sense. Ice vehicles have a 50% efficiency loss just in the drivetrain, so EVs are already twice as efficient than an equivalent ice vehicle at minimum. So you would have one standard for ice vehicles and another higher standard for EVs? A standard for EVs (other than the ice-based MPGe) only makes sense when the market is dominated by EVs.Why do you feel government intervention is needed here? It’s in all EV manufacturer’s best interests to provide vehicles with as much range as possible, as that will draw more people to buy their product. So far no one has matched Tesla in this respect, but the competition among manufacturers to build better and longer range EV’s is alive and working, imho. Huge selling point if your EV has better range at a comparable price.
I agree - and don't think government intervention is needed. Tesla builds very fuel-efficient EVs.Why do you feel government intervention is needed here? It’s in all EV manufacturer’s best interests to provide vehicles with as much range as possible, as that will draw more people to buy their product.
Yes, this makes no sense. Ice vehicles have a 50% efficiency loss just in the drivetrain, so EVs are already twice as efficient than an equivalent ice vehicle at minimum. So you would have one standard for ice vehicles and another higher standard for EVs? A standard for EVs (other than the ice-based MPGe) only makes sense when the market is dominated by EVs.
Yes, this makes no sense. Ice vehicles have a 50% efficiency loss just in the drivetrain, so EVs are already twice as efficient than an equivalent ice vehicle at minimum. So you would have one standard for ice vehicles and another higher standard for EVs? A standard for EVs (other than the ice-based MPGe) only makes sense when the market is dominated by EVs.
I agree - and don't think government intervention is needed. Tesla builds very fuel-efficient EVs.
Same for ICE, right? It is in all ICE manufacturer's best interests to provide vehicles with as low a fuel cost as possible, as that will draw people to buy their product. Again, no government intervention needed.
An ICE vehicle in total is 80% inefficient, 50% from the powertrain (sorry, not drivetrain).10-15% drivetrain loss, not 50%.
Yes, different - though I was talking economy for ICE, not range. What is the same is the consumer determines what is important and the manufacturer delivers - range for EVs and economy for ICE. No need for the government to intervene in one and not the other.No, I believe it’s a slightly different situation, for a couple of reasons.
Why set MPG standards and not MPGe standards?
Yes, different - though I was talking economy for ICE, not range. What is the same is the consumer determines what is important and the manufacturer delivers - range for EVs and economy for ICE. No need for the government to intervene in one and not the other.
Why set MPG standards and not MPGe standards?
Ok, then why set MPG standards? Or why not set MPGe standards for the next 30 years?We are standing on the precipice of it not mattering; solar self sufficiency in 30 years.
Why is it government's role to tell them what to produce - what is wrong with the consumer telling them?One manufacturer type has no motivation to improve unless threatened legally.