Smart EV (or ED)

[Eberhard]

Also, I think, if it is not a standard mains socket, then there isn't much else it could be. In any case, great to see more EVs with more than 6.6 kW charging. Curious what the US version will use.

why shouldn't mennekes type 2 not be a standard socket - its the standard

even on the american grid with 277V/400V 3-phase system

 

[Eberhard]

Smart ED 55kW, 17.6kWh battery, 22kW 3-phase onboard charger

The 55kW powered Smart ED can be ordered now. Price start with less then €19.000 plus monthly fee of €70 for battery lease or less then €24.000 including the battery pack.
With a 22kW 3-phase onboard-charger, the 17.6kWh battery can be charged within 1 hour.

 

[jcstp]

of what I understand on the site from smart, they work together with SPX
Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment (EVSE) | SPX Service Solutions | SPX


And Keba too
KeMove - Electromobility - Energy automation - KEBA AG - Automation by innovation.

 

[dpeilow]

Has anyone got or seen one of their Power Xpress chargers? The idea of a J1772 with 12 - 32A adjustment is quite interesting.

 

[GSP]

The 55kW powered Smart ED can be ordered now. Price start with less then €19.000 plus monthly fee of €70 for battery lease or less then €24.000 including the battery pack.
With a 22kW 3-phase onboard-charger, the 17.6kWh battery can be charged within 1 hour.

I think this is the first vehicle for sale with a 3 phase charger. I'm supprised they didn't limit it to 16A (11kW). 22 kW is quite a generous spec for an affordable €24.000 EV.

Retrofitting Model S sedans with this charger could be a good business!

GSP

 

[T@oo]

A 3Phase charger. Really?! Who would have thought this could be possible even in a low volume, (relatively) low price BEV ... /sacasm

 

[jcstp]

maybe with the daimler-tesla connection, this charger is already meant to be in the Model S!
The model S has 2 chargeports! Maybé 1 tesla-supercharger, and 1 3-phase on the other side of the car!

 

[dpeilow]

Geneva 2012: Mad Rinspeed Dock+Go is “backpack on wheelsâ€￾ for Smart electric car

 

[evinfairfax]

Smart (as in Daimler) Electric

Well, it turns the Model S probably isn't going to work for us as the primary "family" car or whatever you want to call it, but I do still have an itch to experience life with an EV, which I'm quite convinced is the future of cars. So now I'm thinking of getting a small commuter EV for my own use during the week. This is probably a smarter way for me to get a taste of EV ownership without too many compromises.

Does anyone have any experience or thoughts on the Smart Electric? It seems to have a low CG, no tranny, more than enough range for my needs. I'd appreciate any insight anyone has on this car.

Thanks!

 

[Steph]

Well, it turns the Model S probably isn't going to work for us as the primary "family" car or whatever you want to call it

Can you expand on this? Price? Range? Why?

 

[evinfairfax]

Can you expand on this? Price? Range? Why?

Oh, I mentioned this in another thread. I didn't mean to bring that up again, just providing context for why I'm looking at a Smart and not a Tesla. (short answer is I'm ordering more of a complete/refined luxury/performance sedan as the main family hauler, and then something small/cheap just for myself as a daily commuter)

But anyway, that's not the point, I know there are a lot of knowledgable EV fans here, so I ask about the Smart here.

 

[vfx]

TMC Smart Threads

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/show...-22kW-3-phase-onboard-charger?highlight=smart

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/145-Smart-EV-(or-ED)?highlight=smart

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1100-Smart-ED-vs-Smart-ICE?highlight=smart

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/1236-Tesla-in-deal-with-Daimler?highlight=smart

 

[evinfairfax]

thanks, vfx. I'm not clever enough to search for "smart" here. Those are really helpful.

 

[Lloyd]

Spy Photos of New Electric Sports Car?????

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/02/mystery-german-electric-sports-car-spied-testing-spy-photos.html

 

[VolkerP]

From Jun 12th 202 on, the electric Smart ED can be ordered. Prices start at EUR 18,910 plus battery lease of EUR 65 a month. The complete package is sold at EUR 23,680. A convertible version is available for an additional EUR 3,090.

An ICE version of comparable power (52kW) and the same interior package ("Passion line") comes at EUR 13,350. Heise titled their article "electric version comes at nearly double the price."

Some specs of the electric version are mentioned: 17,6kWh battery pack from BOSCH/Evonik, 4.8 s for 0-35 mph, top speed 77 mph.

A test drive report by Heise Auto will follow in a few days.

Source (in German): Spätzünder: Der Smart ed läuft vom Band | heise Autos

 

[TEG]

EVs Just Got Cheap: Smart ForTwo Electric Drive Priced At $25,000 Pre-Rebate For US

 

[VolkerP]

EVs Just Got Cheap: Smart ForTwo Electric Drive Priced At $25,000 Pre-Rebate For US

For the United States, the Smart ForTwo Electric Drive coupe starts at $25,000, with the Cabriolet at $28,000. Much cheaper than any other highway capable EV sold in the US today.
The only question now is: If this is the price a premium automaker like Daimler can offer an EV with almost 18 kWh of energy on board for, why are we still paying so much for the likes of the Nissan LEAF ($35,200 – 24 kWh), Ford Focus Electric ($39,200 23 kWh) and Chevrolet Volt ($39,195 – 16.5 kWh)

 

[Dave EV]

That is cheap - but Fontana Nissan in California is offering $7k off MSRP on purchases now - that puts the SV at ~$28k pre-rebates - same price as the Cabriolet and not much more than the coupe.

 

[ElSupreme]

That is cheap - but Fontana Nissan in California is offering $7k off MSRP on purchases now - that puts the SV at ~$28k pre-rebates - same price as the Cabriolet and not much more than the coupe.

Not to mention you get a usable sized car with the LEAF.

That is good news about low cost EVs. With a $7,500 federal, and a $5,000 state rebate I may just buy one in a year or two when they come out. 50% off isn't shabby.

 

[JRP3]

I have to say I'm tempted at that price, I mean after the rebate that's DIY conversion pricing without all the work, and you get a new car instead of a used one, all be it a smaller one.