Daniel in SD
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So, you don't use it.Neither does summon, because I know how to use it. AKA I read the manual.
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So, you don't use it.Neither does summon, because I know how to use it. AKA I read the manual.
Sure. If that's what you want to read from me.So, you don't use it.
When you advertise something to seem more capable than it actually is, then you put in fineprint that it actually doesn't work very well. Thats something Tesla has done since the beginning of their FSD video from way back when. For the longest time some people believed Tesla had a secrete forke of FSD software that was capable of what that video showed in 2016 but they couldn't release it because of "regulations", which was the fineprint then.And from this select group, we need to be sure to explicitly exclude people who do not know to ignore the example use case and stated capabilities on the Tesla website, shown when purchasing the vehicle:
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I agree that when we narrow the field to people who have that level of knowledge and common sense, there are use cases for those people where Smart Summon could have some value in specific situations (pouring rain in a deserted wide-open parking lot with relative lack of signposts, parking spot end stops, clear line of sight, etc., for example).
Neither does summon,
because I know how to use it.
I read the manual.
I read the manual.
Being informed is not only different than being ignorant. It's quite the opposite. I'll just leave you at that.This is the ultimate in ignorant responses.
Yes, it is covered on page 103 of the 2021/07/09 Owner's Manual. (https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/model_3_owners_manual_north_america_en.pdf) It's called "Summon," while the other more exciting version is called "Smart Summon."
It just moves back and forth in close to a straight line and does not steer around obstacles. Both versions can collide with objects if not used with care.
How can anyone proactively anticipate that the grass lawn, with a tree on it, is to be considered an obstacle?! A kids toy behind the tire ok, but the tree was on the lawn! Especially with all the cynical and irresponsible Tesla hype going on in addition to the false marketing, owners are mislead.O
Oy vey. I'm done arguing. You quoted the instructions and even highlighted them. Your point subsequent merely is gainsay.
Um, by following the following instructions?How can anyone proactively anticipate that the grass lawn, with a tree on it, is to be considered an obstacle?! A kids toy behind the tire ok, but the tree was on the lawn! Especially with all the cynical and irresponsible Tesla hype going on in addition to the false marketing, owners are mislead.
Doesn't say anything about driving on the lawn? I guess that would look strange, but they might consider adding thus warning. Tesla can use my text for free if they need: "WARNING: The system will sometimes drive the car over curbs, over the lawn and anywhere a car should not drive. You will not be able to recognise this before it happens as the behaviour of the car is totally random."Um, by following the following instructions?
CAUTION: Ensure all cameras and sensors are clean. Dirty cameras and sensors, as well as environmental conditions such as rain and faded lane markings, can affect Autopilot performance.
WARNING: Summon is designed and intended for use only on parking lots and driveways on private property where the surrounding area is familiar and predictable.
WARNING: Summon is a BETA feature. You must continually monitor the vehicle and its surroundings and stay prepared to take immediate action at any time. It is the driver's responsibility to use Summon safely, responsibly, and as intended.
WARNING: Summon's performance depends on the ability of the ultrasonic sensors to determine the vehicle's proximity to objects, people, animals, and other vehicles.
WARNING: Parking in a narrow space limits the ability of the sensors to accurately detect the location of obstacles, increasing the risk of damage to Model 3 and/or surrounding objects.
You're not going to win this argument. The manual basically says not to use it anywhere except a completely featureless parking lot and that depending on the reliability of your cellular connection it may not stop when you release the button (so you should be close enough to open the door to stop it).Doesn't say anything about driving on the lawn? I guess that would look strange, but they might consider adding thus warning. Tesla can use my text for free if they need: "WARNING: The system will sometimes drive the car over curbs, over the lawn and anywhere a car should not drive. You will not be able to recognise this before it happens as the behaviour of the car is totally random."
Um, by following the following instructions?
CAUTION: Ensure all cameras and sensors are clean. Dirty cameras and sensors, as well as environmental conditions such as rain and faded lane markings, can affect Autopilot performance.
WARNING: Summon is designed and intended for use only on parking lots and driveways on private property where the surrounding area is familiar and predictable.
WARNING: Summon is a BETA feature. You must continually monitor the vehicle and its surroundings and stay prepared to take immediate action at any time. It is the driver's responsibility to use Summon safely, responsibly, and as intended.
WARNING: Summon's performance depends on the ability of the ultrasonic sensors to determine the vehicle's proximity to objects, people, animals, and other vehicles.
WARNING: Parking in a narrow space limits the ability of the sensors to accurately detect the location of obstacles, increasing the risk of damage to Model 3 and/or surrounding objects.
Doesn't say anything about driving on the lawn? I guess that would look strange, but they might consider adding thus warning. Tesla can use my text for free if they need: "WARNING: The system will sometimes drive the car over curbs, over the lawn and anywhere a car should not drive. You will not be able to recognise this before it happens as the behaviour of the car is totally random."
See discussion above. Did you read the Owner's manual carefully?I just bought the car on Friday and I tried to summon features it went and crashed on the pillar is there any help I could get
I see these responses a lot about the owners manual. Are you suggesting that we are supposed to commit every single thing discussed in the manual to memory? I’m not even sure they update us when there are changes made to the owners manual. How often are we supposed to reread it and check for changes?See discussion above. Did you read the Owner's manual carefully?
You shouldn't assume you know how things operate, especially when the word BETA is next to them. When you enable a BETA feature in the car, it tells you you should be extra careful and monitor the car's every movement. So, yes, learning before doing is a good idea. Not only for a Tesla car, but for everything in general.I see these responses a lot about the owners manual. Are you suggesting that we are supposed to commit every single thing discussed in the manual to memory? I’m not even sure they update us when there are changes made to the owners manual. How often are we supposed to reread it and check for changes?
Thanks mom!You shouldn't assume you know how things operate, especially when the word BETA is next to them. When you enable a BETA feature in the car, it tells you you should be extra careful and monitor the car's every movement. So, yes, learning before doing is a good idea. Not only for a Tesla car, but for everything in general.
As to how often should you read the manual? Once. And them revisit if you forgot something. Tesla's videos are also really good and straight to the point.
A new check on the manual is also a smart move once the feature you're interested in is featured in a changelog.
...How often are we supposed to reread it and check for changes?
...As to how often should you read the manual? Once. And them revisit if you forgot something. Tesla's videos are also really good and straight to the point.
A new check on the manual is also a smart move once the feature you're interested in is featured in a changelog.
You did ask, but I guess you didn't like the answer.Thanks mom!
Er .. they were filming the Dashcam footage replaying in the car AFTER the event.And whoever was in the car filming couldn't stop it once they saw it headed towards a tree?
Do you even alternative facts brah!?Being informed is not only different than being ignorant. It's quite the opposite. I'll just leave you at that.
For miscellaneous bug fixes what part of the manual do I read again? How about cold weather improvements?You did ask, but I guess you didn't like the answer.