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I hate being right about the downwards macro movement. If this is how hard we're hit when there's no company-specific negative news, imagine how much it would hurt when there is company-specific negative news. Congrats to everyone who managed to hedge their bets in the current environment. I don't have an opinion as to whether it's too late to take a defensive stance or not, though.
thanks AIMc. 12 minutes in, Elon estimates the probability of getting the cost of the Gen III down 50% as a 99% likelihood. I've heard his confidence in this before, but this was quite a strong expression of it.
Hello All,
New teslamaniac here and a new retail investor.
I have a random question that I hope someone can answer. If you bought the Tesla Model S in Europe for delivery on Q1 2014, did you purchase it in Euros or Dollars? The reason I ask is that I *think* most of these purchases were made at least 6 months ago and the Euro has increased in value vis a vis the dollar by @4-6 % since. If so, I *think* if the purchase was made in Euros and delivery occurs later, Tesla would accrue those extra dollars due to the exchange rate for Q1 2014 revenue. Or am I way out to lunch? :smile:
I ordered mine late in Q1-14 and paid deposit in SEK. IIRC the exchange rate was for a cheaper dollar then than now. Balance will also be paid in SEK at the going rate on that day.
This is certainly not a banner day for my TSLA and solar holdings. I guess retirement is overrated and I will continue to work a while longer! I have cash that I could commit as this may prove to be a good buying time but I admit that 'analysis-paralysis' has set into my brain so I am sitting on the sidelines right now.
Good move by all you who hedged. Hopefully better days ahead for me and my cohorts who have calls/stock.
Here I sit gnawing my fingernails and tapping my feet. Actually hoping the slump will hold for a few more days. Let me explain.
One year ago I discovered TSLA and started to invest, via the cumbersome and fail-prone method of phoning my bank (hoping the stock guy was available) during the window of about one hour between open Nasdaq and close my bank (time zones). Local assets can be traded online, no problem. But TSLA etc are not local to me and need expert handling. So in the fall I opened a new account at a different bank, where I could trade via desktop in real-time. I also opened a tax-deferred account there, where only realized profits would be taxed, not each trade singly. Unfortunately, it turned out North Am assets were not eligible for that account so I withdrew almost all my cash deposit (and will pay a trivial pro forma tax on the max amount for that quarter).
Now, last week this new bank announced that they would actually allow NA trading in the tax-deferred account. I rushed to move over all my assets, while they were at a (temporary?) slump, because the transfer is considered a sell and I will be liable for gains tax. Best while cheap!
BUT - my two major holdings, TSLA and JASO, could not be transferred for a few days, due to some delay of liquidity or whatever. So, contrary to you my friends, I am actually crossing my bitten fingers that those two companies will trade lower until they are safe in my tax haven! Sorry about that; if it even matters to the market. :tongue:
It would have been better, of course, if I could have invested there from the beginning, but that was not to be. Now I want to minimize the tax effect by trying to time the transfer, gazing into my misty crystal ball.
End of week: GOGOGO!
And that concludes this transmission. Good luck.
hope it works out- 2 great stocks regardless!
Hello All,
New teslamaniac here and a new retail investor.
I have a random question that I hope someone can answer. If you bought the Tesla Model S in Europe for delivery on Q1 2014, did you purchase it in Euros or Dollars? The reason I ask is that I *think* most of these purchases were made at least 6 months ago and the Euro has increased in value vis a vis the dollar by @4-6 % since. If so, I *think* if the purchase was made in Euros and delivery occurs later, Tesla would accrue those extra dollars due to the exchange rate for Q1 2014 revenue. Or am I way out to lunch?
I used to have similar trading troubles as you described in your post. There is some good information in Brokerage and Trading Tools thread on this forum. Based on contributors comments there, I opened IB account and transferred most assets to that account. Now placing orders is easy.Here I sit gnawing my fingernails and tapping my feet. Actually hoping the slump will hold for a few more days. Let me explain.
One year ago I discovered TSLA and started to invest, via the cumbersome and fail-prone method of phoning my bank (hoping the stock guy was available) during the window of about one hour between open Nasdaq and close my bank (time zones). Local assets can be traded online, no problem. But TSLA etc are not local to me and need expert handling. So in the fall I opened a new account at a different bank, where I could trade via desktop in real-time. I also opened a tax-deferred account there, where only realized profits would be taxed, not each trade singly. Unfortunately, it turned out North Am assets were not eligible for that account so I withdrew almost all my cash deposit (and will pay a trivial pro forma tax on the max amount for that quarter).
Now, last week this new bank announced that they would actually allow NA trading in the tax-deferred account. I rushed to move over all my assets, while they were at a (temporary?) slump, because the transfer is considered a sell and I will be liable for gains tax. Best while cheap!
BUT - my two major holdings, TSLA and JASO, could not be transferred for a few days, due to some delay of liquidity or whatever. So, contrary to you my friends, I am actually crossing my bitten fingers that those two companies will trade lower until they are safe in my tax haven! Sorry about that; if it even matters to the market. :tongue:
It would have been better, of course, if I could have invested there from the beginning, but that was not to be. Now I want to minimize the tax effect by trying to time the transfer, gazing into my misty crystal ball.
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