DOOLMTR
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I'm sticking with 20.8 as well. Follow distance 1 is bad enough in slow traffic I don't want to be further back.
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I really feel like its been getting worse and worse the last 6 months. It used to be quite agressive with closing the gap, now it'll slow down by 15 mph and have a 20 car gap if you dont nanny it... I'm assuming they did it to reduce phantom breaking.I'm sticking with 20.8 as well. Follow distance 1 is bad enough in slow traffic I don't want to be further back.
This is exactly my planI'm on the version right before that, 2022.20.8 on my Model Y. I'm going to stay on this version forever, until Elon gives me FSD I paid for 2 years ago.
At that point, radar needs to be disabled for FSD anyway (Tesla Vision), so there's no choice but to upgrade and disable radar.
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Honesty... would you trust a camera smeared in bug guts to drive you? Best to have taken over regardless.I wish I knew vision was just being forced on us all and they were just turning off radar. I mean I bought the car with functioning radar why are they just turning it off? Why I can't I turn it back on? I own the car and the hardware and I'm confused why a private company thinks it has the right to reach into my vehicle and turn off something that's working perfectly well. What's next, they going to just turn off my airbags, seat heaters etc. where does this type of overreach end?
I'm on 2022.24.8 and it is absolute, total and utter $hit with AP on now. You can't control your highbeams, can't control wipers and they seem to be set to max speed at all times, yes you can slow them down but can't turn it off. I drove through a swarm of insects (I'm in Florida) and the wipers went nuts trying to clean the glass which just smeared almost blinding me. Wipers also randomly go nuts on clear days with no rain. Just dry wipers dragging back and forth on the window for absolutely no fcukin reason whatsoever unless you turn off AP. Radar no longer works, I can't see the car in front of my car anymore and AP is basically junk unless your ok giving up your ability as the driver to control your wipers and lights because I assume the software is supposed to know better? First accident caused by this junk I hope Tesla are held liable. I am beyond pissed at this so called update and there's nothing I can do about it apparently.
But they didn't do that. Your car reached out to their servers and saw a new version was available and downloaded it. It then offered the upgrade to you and you accepted and installed it...I own the car and the hardware and I'm confused why a private company thinks it has the right to reach into my vehicle and turn off something that's working perfectly well.
This is not quite correct. You can turn off auto high beams by pushing the stalk forward and releasing. The next time you engage AP however, it will turn on again.Can we start a list of things we lose when radar is disabled (2022.20.9)?
So far I have:
- AP max speed 85mph (down from 90mph).
- AP min follow distance is level 2 (up from level 1).
- High beams must be on Auto (cannot be disabled). Can they be force-enabled manually? (outside of temporary pull-to-flash).
2022.20.9 has been nagging me for an install for the last few weeks and I need to be reminded to resist the urge.
- Wipers must be on Auto (cannot be disabled).
This is not quite correct. Doing that turns off high beams all together, it does not turn off auto high beams. (You can't actually turn on high beams when using AP.)This is not quite correct. You can turn off auto high beams by pushing the stalk forward and releasing.
The point is high beams (auto or otherwise) can be disabled (although only for the given AP activation).This is not quite correct. Doing that turns off high beams all together, it does not turn off auto high beams. (You can't actually turn on high beams when using AP.)
Elon Musk must have personally heard my complaint, because my car was just pushed 2022.20.17, which includes FSD Beta 10.69.2.2.I'm on the version right before that, 2022.20.8 on my Model Y. I'm going to stay on this version forever, until Elon gives me FSD I paid for 2 years ago.
At that point, radar needs to be disabled for FSD anyway (Tesla Vision), so there's no choice but to upgrade and disable radar.
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