I'm pretty sure that SpaceX has already made the changes the FAA and SpaceX wanted. It isn't approved until the FAA officially approves it. That is bureaucracy and that can take a while for the "approval."
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I'm pretty sure that SpaceX has already made the changes the FAA and SpaceX wanted. It isn't approved until the FAA officially approves it. That is bureaucracy and that can take a while for the "approval."
Why? Are you of the opinion SpaceX and FAA haven't been communicating this entire time and SpaceX was not aware of the 63 items? Mishap process requires submittal of corrective items, the report is not going to short circuit that and say they are already done.
Would appear Elon was gaslighting when he said "ready to launch, waiting on FAA approval."
Why? Are you of the opinion SpaceX and FAA haven't been communicating this entire time and SpaceX was not aware of the 63 items? Mishap process requires submittal of corrective items, the report is not going to short circuit that and say they are already done.
(And, like I told you at dinner last night, that's not what gaslighting means anyway)
They have a launch license. They need a license modification for a second launch. Do you have a source that supports your view that SpaceX has not yet submitted the needed data for granting said modification, perhaps in their mishap response document?Has SpaceX applied for a launch license?
Good on him for clarifying the situation. I am seeing so many news stories from mostly reputable organizations that completely misunderstand what is going on.A tweet from former SpaceX mission director Abhi Tripathi:
If those are "space" news organizations then they may certainly have decent information. If it is regular media then I doubt they understand much about anything related to space, let alone SpaceX.Good on him for clarifying the situation. I am seeing so many news stories from mostly reputable organizations that completely misunderstand what is going on.
I disagree. I think Elon was out of the loop. That tweet was completely tone deaf. It had neither humor nor wit behind it. Not even in hindsight.I'd be surprised if anyone other than those of us are involved in Tesla and SpaceX, would understand that the whole response from Elon to the FAA was a joke. Most people thought he was serious. We know that SpaceX and the FAA work to resolve the issues. So, of course, Elon is aware of what was on the list of 63 issues.
Thanks for the post.These items (guessing they were simplified for public dissemination)
Okay. Sixty-three actions.The final mishap investigation report cited a total of sixty-three (63) corrective actions for SpaceX to implement
Okay. So complete all 63, right?When SpaceX applies for this [launch license] modification, it will need to demonstrate compliance with 450.173(f) by evidencing the implementation of corrective actions adopted in response to its April 20, 2023 mishap
Oh. The only ones that SpaceX has to address are those directly tied to public safety (and we don't have that information). That will fulfill the requirements of 450.173(f) which is needed for the launch license modification to allow for the second flight. I'd love to have seen the list when it was first created. Were all the items that are shown as Completed originally listed as Future Action (like the remaining uncompleted ones) or were they listed as Required Action (suggesting that they were a mandatory part of the 450.173(f) work)?Once the FAA determines SpaceX has implemented the corrective actions directly tied to public safety, the agency will consider SpaceX to be in compliance with 450.173(f).
Heh. It would be nice if sites were required to post corrections with the same prominence as the original article. But even then, I fear that sites would just spin that into another opportunity for more clicks, making drama out of their own corrections.So now will we see the numerous news organizations that got their story about this so deeply wrong issue prominent corrections? Probably not…
Not the way I read Elon’s tweet, which states that 6 of the 63 items do not need to be resolved before the next launch, they are for “later flights’. The list shows that all items required to be resolved for the next flight have been addressed.So complete all 63, right?
It was a rhetorical question answered in the next section...Not the way I read Elon’s tweet, which states that 6 of the 63 items do not need to be resolved before the next launch, they are for “later flights’. The list shows that all items required to be resolved for the next flight have been addressed.
Or am I missing something?
What is this delay of which you speak?That explanation from Abhi Tripathi you posted @Grendal is a great treatise on the process.
So, given the close cooperation, and the fact that the issues needing to be addressed are primarily generated BY SpaceX, and approved by the FAA, any thoughts as to why SpaceX believed they were reedy to go Friday and on the cusp of getting FAA approval, only to have to delay as a result of the FAA's action?
Is this a case of "The FAA... could recommend adding something if warranted."? If so, any ideas what additional things they thought were warranted that SpaceX originally did not?
As your post pointed out above:What is this delay of which you speak?
SpaceX is busy upgrading Stage 0 and setting up Starship tests.
Most recent marine notices cover Sept 8-13.
Elon tweeted "Starship is ready to launch". As Elon said it, it should be assigned no significance at all.After the ship was stacked, Elon tweeted about be ready to go. These were subsequently cancelled.