Nope, it's going to be 10 72kW stalls. I started the 40 unit rumor based on information I received about 9-12 months ago. The macro level location was right (Tysons Mall), as was the fact that it's going to be 72kW "urban" chargers, but the quantity and exact location (which lot) was wrong.
-
Want to remove ads? Register an account and login to see fewer ads, and become a Supporting Member to remove almost all ads.
Supercharger - Tysons, VA
- Thread starter MXFan
- Start date
-
- Tags
- supercharger virginia
Nope, it's going to be 10 72kW stalls. I started the 40 unit rumor based on information I received about 9-12 months ago. The macro level location was right (Tysons Mall), as was the fact that it's going to be 72kW "urban" chargers, but the quantity and exact location (which lot) was wrong.
10 urban-style charging posts are planned to be installed against this wall on the lowest level (L1) on the western end of Garage B.
Wonder what they will do about the red and green occupancy lights above the charging spots?
Last edited:
Urban chargers... cool!
First I'm aware of around here... and also explains the placement a little better. This isn't necessarily supposed to support long-distance travel and be convenient to get to from a major travel corridor, etc..
First I'm aware of around here... and also explains the placement a little better. This isn't necessarily supposed to support long-distance travel and be convenient to get to from a major travel corridor, etc..
Based on my conversations, I was also expecting a larger installation of urban Superchargers. I think 10 stalls will be pretty busy most of the time.
Reddy Kilowatt
Active Member
Was just at mall all existing chargers are full.
the lights are green open
the red is occupied.
blue is handicapped.
Purple I believe is special and that would cover them.
flashing red is someone who has parked over 4 or 8 hours. and can be towed.
The green counters count all spaces. I don't know enough about the Park Assist systems whether, or not handicapped spaces are even in the count. so they could drop the count to the Tesla chargers. Loops or Frog sensors count the top deck spaces as people come and go.
the lights are green open
the red is occupied.
blue is handicapped.
Purple I believe is special and that would cover them.
flashing red is someone who has parked over 4 or 8 hours. and can be towed.
The green counters count all spaces. I don't know enough about the Park Assist systems whether, or not handicapped spaces are even in the count. so they could drop the count to the Tesla chargers. Loops or Frog sensors count the top deck spaces as people come and go.
Reddy Kilowatt
Active Member
Slight correction. Flashing purple is for vehicles that have stayed over the maximum time (24 hours, I believe).
A couple more pictures of the site.
And yes, it’s warm down here. I can only imagine how much warmer it’ll be when 10 cars are charging mid-summer. On the plus side, it should be nice in the winter!
SpudLime
Active Member
The gung-ho-ness of this group cracks me up. Little spies sneaking around NoVa to get these updates are awesome.
tangent
Member
I have charged at Cambridge MA using Tesla's Urban superchargers, Tysons could be a good candidate for that style of SC.
kingjamez
Member
In talking with the sales people at Tysons Corner, two different employees told me that this would be a 45 stall installation. I said "45? Really?" They double confirmed.
-Jim
-Jim
Reddy Kilowatt
Active Member
Permit is for Ten. But like you i heard at most 40 stalls. I would say they start with the 10 then expand. everytime I go up there the 8 little chargers are fully occupied. I remember seeing tesla's in line waiting to get any type of charge.
And to add to that, when the existing wall connectors are fully occupied, the charge rate drops down to 20 amps per vehicle (4 stations share a 100 amp breaker).
vdiv
Chief Grump
Wonder if the longer term plan is indeed for more stalls wether those would be installed in the other garages. For now the only concrete plan as applied for and approved by FFX County is this one for 10.
There is certainly plenty of room for them to expand, both in garage B and elsewhere around the complex. It'll be interesting to see how much utilization the 10 Supercharges get, considering that the 8 wall connectors are often full.
Personally, I'd like to see at least 4 wall connectors in each of the five mall garages (A, B, C, D and E), allowing patrons to choose their preferred parking location. Installation would be straight forward and inexpensive, since each garage has its own electrical room... just put the wall connectors on a shared 100 amp circuit in the closest spaces and call it a day. All of the garages have been converted to LED lighting in recent years, so there should be plenty of electrical overhead.
In addition, the mall is severely lacking J1772 public charging stations. If they decide they don't want to subsidize power for shoppers, which I can understand, I'd like to see them partner with Chargepoint and get some J1772 stations installed in the garages. I'd actually prefer this to Tesla wall connectors if it's a one-or-the-other situation.
vdiv
Chief Grump
Anything but ChargePoints
Really? I've had the best luck with them. My second choice is probably Sema Connect and Blink isn't even on the list.
tangent
Member
Make sure they are not referring to toilet stalls ... those by AMC could get busy and yucky at times.
Similar threads
