I've noticed some new SC wont work like this. In some installs I've started to see them install plexi in the SC hole so the cable would have to ho out and around the SC and thus not have enough length to reach the back where you're officially not supposed to be plugged in.
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Tesla forced to open superchargers to unlock billions
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I've noticed some new SC wont work like this. In some installs I've started to see them install plexi in the SC hole so the cable would have to ho out and around the SC and thus not have enough length to reach the back where you're officially not supposed to be plugged in.
Interesting. I haven't seen any of these yet. Of course, I haven't done a road trip for a while. Where would some of those be?
The new Lakewood, CA one that was put in a few weeks ago had this if I recall correctly.
One side is regular parking and the other side is SC parking. They don't want a Tesla parking in regular spot on other side and causing issues with Tesla owner trying to park in official spot with charger being using in wrong place.
This could be a request of Tesla, the city, or landlord. Who knows.
Makes sense. Land is a lot cheaper in Ogallala than Lakewood. They need those spaces behind the Superchargers for other parking in Lakewood. Not so much in Ogallala.
Well we now know how Tesla plans to meet the NEVI 150kW minimum output requirement with V3 chargers:
They have three different options depending on the site:
They will:
Yes, that is probably a very rare situation, especially with the current vehicles on the road, but I think it will become more common over time.
It will be interesting to see how, if, they label the NEVI funded posts.
It appears that they are doing this at all of the New Mexico sites, with each having some non-NEVI funded posts:
They have three different options depending on the site:
- Add additional charging cabinets (More than 1 cabinet per 4 posts.)
- Install fewer charging posts
- Apply software limits to ensure that the NEVI funded posts can always get 150kW
They will:
- Keep the existing utility infrastructure which provides the site with 774kW of power
- Rip out the existing 6 post V2 Supercharger installation.
- Install a new site with V3 chargers and 8 V4 posts.
- 5 posts will be NEVI funded while 3 posts will not be NEVI funded
Yes, that is probably a very rare situation, especially with the current vehicles on the road, but I think it will become more common over time.
It will be interesting to see how, if, they label the NEVI funded posts.
It appears that they are doing this at all of the New Mexico sites, with each having some non-NEVI funded posts:
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These sites are a terrible waste of federal money. Those places are already well covered with Superchargers and CCS. Personally, I think this money should go to places along US 60 or US 180 in the west end of NM, maybe Apache Creek or Quemado, or Pie Town (how can you not like that place), where there are complete charging vacuums.It will be interesting to see how, if, they label the NEVI funded posts.
It appears that they are doing this at all of the New Mexico sites, with each having ssuome non-NEVI funded posts:
Well covered with CCS? That can't be, as there can't be another NEVI compliant station within ~50 miles. So that means that there isn't a site with 4 CCS chargers that can output 150kW on all four at the same time nearby.
The point of upgrading the Superchargers is to make them NEVI compliant, as they aren't currently, and open them to all compatible EVs.
Are those locations along the federally designated highways?
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I don't think so, at least not NEVI funding. I think the first NEVI funded Supercharger, in Maine, hasn't gone live yet. (The opening of most of the network to Ford and Rivian has nothing to do with government funds.)
They may have received some special funding for the MagicDock retrofits, but I have never seen any details on what the agreement between the Whitehouse and Tesla was on opening the ~3,500 Superchargers to all CCS vehicles.
Not on the REV West map from 2021. For New Mexico it was the Interstates and some other highways to the east of I-25.
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In the Deployment Plan linked from the New Mexico DOT NEVI site, survey results suggest lower priority for those as well.
The priority would be the Interstates,, US-70 and Northwest of I-40/I-25.
I guess your key point is about NEVI compliance. I guess that's fair.
I suppose NEVI and I probably aren't fully aligned with the priorities. The areas they are going in probably still is quite poor for CCS. It is, IMHO, ok currently, for Superchargers though. I'd also rather see a few more remote areas covered before we finish with 50 mile spacing on the major corridors.
That is just my preference though. I'm probably in the minority as usual.
But that has no relevance. They are paying for infrastructure for all CCS vehicles, not just Teslas. (Or even OEMs that have partnered with Tesla.)
In other words, as far as NEVI funding is concerned Superchargers don't even exist.
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