Tesla owner configurations begin

[MonsterCarter]

Is it typical to work with an Inside Sales Associate prior to getting assigned a Delivery specialist? I've talked to an Inside Sales guy for a week and he still can't tell me when I'm receiving delivery. He finally said I have to wait for my Delivery Specialist to contact me(supposed to be yesterday) who now is apparently out of the office.

 

[smartypnz]

Did they just skip AZ invites this round? How are people on the east coast getting them first? Would have thought we would be next after CA invites.

Outside temperature must be above 110 for AZ deliveries.

 

[Bruinfan]

Did they just skip AZ invites this round? How are people on the east coast getting them first? Would have thought we would be next after CA invites.

i think this is the best explanation i've read:

Just like Tesla fulfills orders for Model S and Model X for Europe in the early part of each quarter so they get delivered near the end of the quarter, I'm betting they are trying to fill the pipeline with cars to East coast, then backfill with West coast cars later in the month so the January numbers are as strong as possible. First week - invites to East coast. Second, Third and Fourth weeks to West Coast. A mid-January order in Oregon may be delivered before an early-January East coast order. The market really wants to see consistent growth in production numbers. Staggering things in this way optimizes deliveries by month.

 

[jomo25]

Ok, i’ll begrudgingly accept that possibility

 

[Bluebullet]

Here I am sitting in Iowa (current owner and 22nd in line at my store) with no invite. Starting to get angry with Tesla's failure to send out reservation emails in the proper order. There are owners in my state (Iowa) that have gotten their configure emails over two weeks ago (and they ordered online). Why haven't I gotten mine and is there anything I can do to start the process?

If I were to get the option to configure would the order be correct (would I be pushed ahead of people who ordered online?) Does the order that people configure their vehicles make a difference? I feel like I'm being cheated. I followed all the rules yet I'm still being left behind.

 

[beachbum77]

Here I am sitting in Iowa (current owner and 22nd in line at my store) with no invite. Starting to get angry with Tesla's failure to send out reservation emails in the proper order. There are owners in my state (Iowa) that have gotten their configure emails over two weeks ago (and they ordered online). Why haven't I gotten mine and is there anything I can do to start the process?

If I were to get the option to configure would the order be correct (would I be pushed ahead of people who ordered online?) Does the order that people configure their vehicles make a difference? I feel like I'm being cheated. I followed all the rules yet I'm still being left behind.

Blue Bullet

What did you tell Tesla were your proposed option choices?

 

[BrianD]

Ok, i’ll begrudgingly accept that possibility

I’m not sure if this will make you feel better but not seeing much in TX either. Existing owner, reserved online 3/31 within 1 minute of opening, no invite.

I did however see one TX guy in spreadsheet that was actually able to configure 12/17 but not sure what factor was different since he did it online as well. If I recall correctly he did not remember actually receiving invite but just signed in and noticed he could order - seems like an anomaly but lucky nonetheless.

I’m planning to wait for white interior or tax credit edges close to running out - whichever whichever comes first.

 

[azred]

I’m not sure if this will make you feel better but not seeing much in TX either. Existing owner, reserved online 3/31 within 1 minute of opening, no invite.

I did however see one TX guy in spreadsheet that was actually able to configure 12/17 but not sure what factor was different since he did it online as well. If I recall correctly he did not remember actually receiving invite but just signed in and noticed he could order - seems like an anomaly but lucky nonetheless.

I’m planning to wait for white interior or tax credit edges close to running out - whichever whichever comes first.

You're smart. Unless Tesla hit 200,000 US sales on 12/31/16 -- and that would be a shock to say the least if they did -- then I can't imagine why anyone with a drivable current car is in a rush. We have until at least 6/30 to qualify for a full tax credit and early production quality control issues should be mostly resolved. But most of all, we can expect that Tesla will begin to expand the configuration options in a few weeks. I doubt very many people would have chosen the pricey current sole configuration. Those on a budget would have configured a cheaper car and those willing to spend fifty large or more would have added AWD.

 

[Bluebullet]

I mainly want to get mine asap so I can sell my model S before it loses value and/or I put a ton of miles on it. Right now I'd be able to sell it for $40k+. In 3-6 months when people have a shorter for a model 3 my car isn't going to look as attractive. Especially when the cheaper configs are available.

 

[rocketshipp85]

I mainly want to get mine asap so I can sell my model S before it loses value and/or I put a ton of miles on it. Right now I'd be able to sell it for $40k+. In 3-6 months when people have a shorter for a model 3 my car isn't going to look as attractive. Especially when the cheaper configs are available.

I have 2 I'm able to configure with a 4 week delivery. Would I be able to sell you one, well as long as you would be intersted in something like that?

 

[Bluebullet]

I have 2 I'm able to configure with a 4 week delivery. Would I be able to sell you one, well as long as you would be interested in something like that?

As much as I'd be interested in that, it's really a viable option. Technically you could but you would lose out on the Tax credit and we would both have to pay sales tax too.

 

[PoitNarf]

I mainly want to get mine asap so I can sell my model S before it loses value and/or I put a ton of miles on it. Right now I'd be able to sell it for $40k+. In 3-6 months when people have a shorter for a model 3 my car isn't going to look as attractive. Especially when the cheaper configs are available.

As a current owner you’re not going to be waiting 3 months for yours. I would be genuinely shocked if that was the case since it wouldn’t bode well for non-owners like myself. Your invite will come very soon. Patience...

 

[jessedh]

I know this is a long shot but I just got my model 3 invite and I can't take it right now. If anyone is interested in me buying it and then buying it from me, I'm more than happy to have a conversation about it.

I'm in NYC, the invite said delivery would be within 4 weeks

PM me if you are interested

 

[Qbenjamin]

I know this is a long shot but I just got my model 3 invite and I can't take it right now. If anyone is interested in me buying it and then buying it from me, I'm more than happy to have a conversation about it.

I'm in NYC, the invite said delivery would be within 4 weeks

PM me if you are interested

Or they could pay for your flight and hotel accommodations and meet you there. Would save a bunch in taxes, etc.

 

[Coolcarx]

East Coast Signature X owner. Two reservations day one in store around noon. Invite to configure on 1-4. Ordered.

 

[smorgasbord]

Is it typical to work with an Inside Sales Associate prior to getting assigned a Delivery specialist? I've talked to an Inside Sales guy for a week and he still can't tell me when I'm receiving delivery. He finally said I have to wait for my Delivery Specialist to contact me(supposed to be yesterday) who now is apparently out of the office.

Yes, it's typical, and yes, it's typical that the Inside Sales Associate has no insight into what's going on. Although, I eventually did get a call from the ISA to schedule my delivery, he had no clue before that when that would happen. His stock line was "Getting a VIN is a good sign."

 

[MonsterCarter]

Yes, it's typical, and yes, it's typical that the Inside Sales Associate has no insight into what's going on. Although, I eventually did get a call from the ISA to schedule my delivery, he had no clue before that when that would happen. His stock line was "Getting a VIN is a good sign."

Thanks, I'm not sure the Inside Sales Associate adds any value here. They should eliminate the ISA from the delivery process since the vehicle has been sold. I hope DS in Fremont work on the weekends.

 

[dhanson865]

I mainly want to get mine asap so I can sell my model S before it loses value and/or I put a ton of miles on it. Right now I'd be able to sell it for $40k+. In 3-6 months when people have a shorter for a model 3 my car isn't going to look as attractive. Especially when the cheaper configs are available.

So true.

Lease returns and trade ins are going to flood the CPO lists and non CPO auction to used car dealers. Price of anything under 55K current value will take a beating in 2018 worse than the non AP cars did when AP came out. More so for the cars below 35K current value but still bad for that mid ground 45K vehicle.

 

[des16]

You're smart. Unless Tesla hit 200,000 US sales on 12/31/16 -- and that would be a shock to say the least if they did -- then I can't imagine why anyone with a drivable current car is in a rush. We have until at least 6/30 to qualify for a full tax credit and early production quality control issues should be mostly resolved. But most of all, we can expect that Tesla will begin to expand the configuration options in a few weeks. I doubt very many people would have chosen the pricey current sole configuration. Those on a budget would have configured a cheaper car and those willing to spend fifty large or more would have added AWD.

I presume you mean 12/31/17 above? In any event, assuming that is the case, how do you figure the full tax credit will be in effect until 6/30/18?

 

[dhanson865]

I presume you mean 12/31/17 above? In any event, assuming that is the case, how do you figure the full tax credit will be in effect until 6/30/18?

His example date should have been 01/01/18 not 12/31/17

As to how it would be in effect until 6/30/18, that is because the full credit lasts 2 quarters aka 6 months from the beginning of the quarter it was triggered in. Of course his example was off by one day in addition to the year you noticed.

If the 200,000th happens on the last day of the year that starts the clock the same as if it was on Oct 1st (91 days prior in a 92 day quarter). Anything between Oct 1 and Dec 31 inclusive is the same for the purpose of the phase out trigger. So .

If it had actually triggered on Dec 2017 (which it didn't see quote below), it would have ended the full credit on March 31st not June 30th.

US running total Tesla Sales vs 200,000 for federal credit phase out trigger
2011 end 1,900
2012 end 4,550 (2,650 for 2012 + prior year)
2013 end 22,200 (17,650 for 2013 + prior years)
2014 end 38,889 (16,689 for 2014 + prior years)
2015 end 64,091 (25,202 for 2015 + prior years, Model S and Model X)
2016 end 111,210 (47,119 for 2016 + prior years, Model S and Model X)
2017 end 161,357 (50,147 for 2017 + prior years, Model S, Model 3, and Model X)

The phase-out period stretches over one year, beginning in the second calendar quarter after the quarter in which the manufacturer hits the 200,000 vehicle US sales mark. From there, all qualifying vehicles sold by the manufacturer are eligible for 50% of their specified credit for the first two quarters and 25% of the credit for the next two quarters.

For example if a manufacturer sells its 200,000th vehicle in the first quarter (Q1) of 2018, the credit amounts for all of that manufacturer's eligible vehicles would phase out as shown in the table below.

Tax Credit Phase-Out Schedule Quarter Credit

Q1 2018 Full amount
Q2 2018 Full amount ends June 30th
Q3 2018 50% of full amount
Q4 2018 50% of full amount ends December 31st
Q1 2019 25% of full amount
Q2 2019 25% of full amount ends June 30th
Q3 2019 No credit

If they sell the 200,000th during the second quarter (Q2) of 2018., the the credit amounts for all of that manufacturer's eligible vehicles would phase out as shown in the table below.

Tax Credit Phase-Out Schedule Quarter Credit

Q2 2018 Full amount
Q3 2018 Full amount ends September 30th
Q4 2018 50% of full amount
Q1 2019 50% of full amount ends March 31st
Q2 2019 25% of full amount
Q3 2019 25% of full amount ends September 30th
Q4 2019 No credit

Since 2017 ended on 161,357 Teslas in the US we have either Q1 2018 or Q2 2018 as likely trigger quarters. See the quote above for full details.