alseTrick
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Which is a problem for those of us who live inside the US swamparse zone. I can just see it now, walking out of my car with a sweaty bum despite the seat ventilator on and my car's A/C unit screeching like a jet engine.
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Which is a problem for those of us who live inside the US swamparse zone. I can just see it now, walking out of my car with a sweaty bum despite the seat ventilator on and my car's A/C unit screeching like a jet engine.
1. The current core rate is $1000 for your old battery. I'm not giving then a battery, so I'm penalized.
2. Yes, considering Tesla is approaching a claimed $200 per kWh cost.
3. 80 bucks per car (that's what battery swap is, isn't it?). Plus 2hrs per car for firmware flash.
I'm not saying it's reality, I'm just trying to paint a reasonable picture. And if Tesla wants to charge us a grand to "certify" the batteries, great. They turn a bit of profit off the whole thing.
CliffG
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lowrider mode for air suspension models.Tesla Scooter
Tesla Plane xD
Tesla Boat
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Tesla City x_x
(yes, I know it's the P100D announcement, but I waited to read the tweet until after the gag)
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jelloslug
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Real cooled seats use a peltier chip to cool (and heat) the air that is pumped through the seats.
HankLloydRight
No Roads
Just because the core rate is $1000 doesn't mean you get to keep your old pack for $1000, and in fact Tesla has never done that. For $20k you get a pack upgrade and they keep your pack. So far they've never let anyone keep it for $1000 and I think it's a foolish assumption to make, leaving your entire plan with no feet to stand on.
I don't follow how if the kWh rate is nearing $200, that means Teska will start selling raw battery packs. Where did you get that conclusion?
Battery swap for $80? That's when tesla *had* a swapping station. They aren't doing that anymore. Is there some third party offering battery swaps for $80? I don't think so.
AMPd
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I'm trying to spec out a P100D and apparently you can't have premium interior package with the white seats
White with the black alcantara roofliner would look awesome!
White with the black alcantara roofliner would look awesome!
dgpcolorado
high altitude member
But, then, why is it "240 volts", "40 amps" and "9600 watts"? (The SI naming system isn't all that logical...)
TaoJones
Beyond Driven
When more 100kW batteries are available, they will find their way into S variants.
I don't know too many traveling owners who don't want more range. In fact, it's their #1 want, and will remain so for as long as a full charge in an 85 barely gets you 180 miles when there's a combination of headwinds, a generous speed limit, and any kind of elevation. In fact, pick any two.
AZ Desert Driver
Rare combination
I did not know there was such a thing as peltier cooled seats using the Peltier–Seebeck effect. Thanks for enlightening me. Makes so much more sense than a freon type loop. Q? is the main cabin also cooled using Peltier–Seebeck effect or does it use expanding refrigerant?
Tam
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My guess is they want to get the US production roll out and troubleshoot any post-production problems first before they will ship out of the US later.
May be it's because of the degree of difficulty to go from 90 to 100 kWh in the same pack form as Musk said: “We are quite close to theoretical limit,”
Tam
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Would some one please explain how the statement below can be possible in real life?
"Musk said that meant a driver could now travel from San Francisco to Los Angeles in temperate weather without recharging."
Google Maps says the shortest route from SFO to LAX is 378 miles.
While the EPA rate is 315 miles.
That's 63 miles short.
In addition, you need to haul the additonal weight with the 100 kWh pack which should be heavier than the 90 one since they use the same kind of cell (same chemistry, same form...)
"Musk said that meant a driver could now travel from San Francisco to Los Angeles in temperate weather without recharging."
Google Maps says the shortest route from SFO to LAX is 378 miles.
While the EPA rate is 315 miles.
That's 63 miles short.
In addition, you need to haul the additonal weight with the 100 kWh pack which should be heavier than the 90 one since they use the same kind of cell (same chemistry, same form...)
Garlan Garner
Banned
If you drive way below 70 mph, it would be possible to go that distance. A couple of Tesla owners have already gone over 400 miles on an 85 kWh battery.
Norwegian Drivers Set New Tesla Model S Distance Record: 450 Miles (Video)
Tesla 85D sets record: 550.3 mi on a single charge
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Garlan Garner
Banned
Yeah, but those are people who travel downhill - both ways.
The same guy counted to infinity - twice
.....+ additional performance. The 0-60 performance of the P100D requires spending a million dollars to match it with a the few other cars on the planet that can do it.....like the Rimac...and even then there's no production car on the planet that can actually match it.
Lower resistance only if drawing the same current from all parallel lines combined. If you draw proportionally more current, the IR is the same. Either way you're going to get more KW whether you add parallel lines or add more cells in series to the existing ones. In one case you get more current. In the other one you get more voltage.
jelloslug
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It's a conventional air conditioner. I think you will start seeing peltier AC units in the future though. I bought a small dorm sized refrigerator for my wife's office that is solid state (peltier) and it works very well. It's super quiet and only draws 83 watts. You can even power with with 12 volts (on a 10 amp fuse) for automotive use.
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