Tesla removes Full Self-Driving (FSD) option from Design Studio

[electronblue]

Tesla has stopped offering the FSD option for new Model S, X and 3 in the Design Studio though it remains an off the menu option for a week or so like Model 3 Long-Range Rear Wheel Drive.

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[lunitiks]

Capping their retrofit-expenditure ref. Elon's twitter-promise... (Free retrofit if you buy FSD)

But seriously - "Was causing too much confusion" - what confusion? And why 2 years in?

Did Tesla just kill FSD as a product?

 

[lunitiks]

Still promoting FSD on www.tesla.com/autopilot ... For one more week?

 

[malcolm]

Did Tesla just kill FSD as a product?

Having read the Ashlee Vance biography, Elon doesn't seem to be the guy to give up on a difficult engineering challenge.

But that was long before this year's "Summer of Love"

Can't wait to meet the new Chairman...

 

[Matias]

Why isn’t this bigger news?

 

[outie]

Why isn’t this bigger news?

People are still absorbing it. The MR announcement kind of took over. Tomorrow we shall see.

 

[lunitiks]

Why isn’t this bigger news?

It's pretty big news over at Short Avenue...

[EDIT: Removed link to Mr. Spiegel ]

 

[J1mbo]

Has the AHP configuration code changed? Wasn't expecting HW3 so soon...

 

[lunitiks]

Has the AHP configuration code changed? Wasn't expecting HW3 so soon...

No it's still APH3 (which is code for hardware 2.5)

 

[deonb]

But seriously - "Was causing too much confusion" - what confusion? And why 2 years in?

My bet is the negative press tend to add every option possible and then publish it as the price of the car.

With the $45k model, it's probably better to remove options like this for now in order to get more publicity for the lower price.

 

[schonelucht]

Still promoting FSD on www.tesla.com/autopilot ... For one more week?

Nah, that's just Tesla's legendary bad customer communication at work. They'll get around to removing references there as well. Some time.

 

[malcolm]

Why isn’t this bigger news?

Maybe everyone's still confused?
Tesla reveals its cheapest Model 3 yet, puts confusing full-self driving option on hiatus

 

[10dot]

I still have the option to add it to my model S in my Tesla account. I'm guessing others are correct in that this is a way to mitigate costs of "free" hardware upgrades for those that purchased FSD early. Elon has said $5K for the upgrade (and that's what my account shows currently). Imagine for a moment that they did a cost breakdown on AP3 hardware + labor and the price came out much closer to $5K than $3K (which is what people who preordered paid). Makes a lot of sense to nuke that pre-paid option and cut your losses of $2K/car when everyone wants to upgrade all at once.

 

[Hey_Hey]

So my Tesla account says $5000 to upgrade to FSD as well. I purchased my Model S in October of 2017, and at that time the FSD was $3000 at the time of purchase or $4000 later. I don't see how they can now go back and raise the price of FSD (if it ever actually comes) for those of us that purchased the car thinking it would be $4000 later. They told all of us that we could order for $4000 later, and going back on that seems very dishonest.

 

[Tam]

...raise the price...

Tesla can raise the price anytime it wants unless you lock in the price with an enforceable contract which means you fully paid for it.

 

[Hey_Hey]

When Tesla put in writing on the website and the sales page some variation of “$3000 now or $4000 later” that sure seems like an agreement made at the time of sale. At a minimum it seems like false advertising. They literally said we could all pay $4000 later to get FSD. Whether that is legally enforceable, I don’t know. But from a customer service standpoint this isn’t something that will cultivate good will.

 

[Hey_Hey]

Here’s an example of a company doing it right:

Two days ago I flew JetBlue, but between the time I ordered the tickets and actually flew, the company raised their baggage fees by a few dollars. However, they grandfathered everyone who had booked their travel so that we fell under the new pricing scheme (I didn’t pay for baggage up front). I didn’t have a contract that said the baggage fees were going to be X dollars, but they honored the price of baggage that was on the website at the time of sale. Could they have legally charged me more for the baggage? Possibly, but I think they did the right thing.

 

[Tam]

"later”

"Later" price can change any time as long as it is not locked in a contract.

Web pricing in only good if you lock in the price. It can change in next a second.

That said, you can call Tesla up and Tesla can make a case by case decision.

 

[10dot]

That's the whole reason I didn't pre-order FSD. I'm willing to pay $10K, maybe even $15K for actual, real full self driving but I want to wait and see if that's actually a thing they can deliver. I'm gambling that FSD WILL happen, but likely after a point (post 2020 refresh maybe?) at which there are enough reasons to compel me to upgrade to a newer car anyhow.

 

[croman]

When Tesla put in writing on the website and the sales page some variation of “$3000 now or $4000 later” that sure seems like an agreement made at the time of sale. At a minimum it seems like false advertising. They literally said we could all pay $4000 later to get FSD. Whether that is legally enforceable, I don’t know. But from a customer service standpoint this isn’t something that will cultivate good will.

It's not legally enforceable and it is not great for good will but it's the way they are going.