This is Betting. Waging high right now. With my current Tesla Electric bill. That during the summer months. I will be Profitable selling back to the grid. Vs using the grid. Waiting for ERCOT to do what they do best. F up. 
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Tesla Solar in Houston & Surrounding Area’s
- Thread starter Jones1
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If I own my system and it was installed this year, Can I charge my PW at night with the free night plan? Will this affect my ability to get tax credit next year?As long as I can charge two EVs unlimited at night and charge my powerwalls at night and only have a 6 dollar bill every month as currently is my case, Tesla electric would be a bad decision. Also since it’s Tesla electric and they can see Tesla charging I wonder if this means it’s truly ONLY car charging for free and not just free energy hours.
If I had an oversized system then maybe it would make sense because like you said the credits could potentially pay for the fee. It’s very interesting. Are you going to be our groups test subject for this one too @Jones1 ?
DrewHou
Tesla S|3|Solar+PW
Yes I will.
I was just telling my wife. With 3 EV’s. We will need this plan.
man I owe you a beer or coffee or something for all the data on these plans You right ERCOT def coming to f it all up any day now. I have a feeling they will be coming for my free nights + free Centerpoint delivery fees soon. No way they continue to let me just use all this energy and pay nothing for it
but until then screw em I will try and use as much as I can anybody need free charging at nights let me know I can leave my plug under the garage door hahahahaha
DrewHou
Tesla S|3|Solar+PW
As far as I know installed in 2023 doesn’t have any type of tax penalty for grid charging at all.
I was installed 2022 and Tesla delivered it to me with grid charging turned on by default and so far no issue and await my refund currently. Typically I don’t find a need to grid charge at night unless I know the weather will be bad for a couple of days.
That’s my experience anyways.
He will probably tell you over the phone. Before he types it out. I told my coworker face to face. I was too scared to text it.
DrewHou
Tesla S|3|Solar+PW
Bahahaha I figure if it was an issue Tesla wouldn’t have delivered it that way. I will say it was never anything my tax person brought up at all. Plus they were able to bundle in my span panel with it.He will probably tell you over the phone. Before he types it out. I told my coworker face to face. I was too scared to text it.
I agreed. It looks like it is only for car charging, I suspect you still have to pay for TDU. Here up north, I have to pay a base fee for the retailer and TNMP, the energy charge for the retailer, and then TDU/kwh for TNMP + Tax, even if I use absolutely nothing, the monthly bill still be ~ $17 from Rhythm. Unless someone has several EVs that require long charges, it is probably not worth it.As long as I can charge two EVs unlimited at night and charge my powerwalls at night and only have a 6 dollar bill every month as currently is my case, Tesla electric would be a bad decision. Also since it’s Tesla electric and they can see Tesla charging I wonder if this means it’s truly ONLY car charging for free and not just free energy hours.
If I had an oversized system then maybe it would make sense because like you said the credits could potentially pay for the fee. It’s very interesting. Are you going to be our groups test subject for this one too @Jones1 ?
Tesla Electric.
To clarify.
If the new plans or updated plan.
Has a $30 option to pay for Unlimited night charging. While keeping the Net metering or buy back. Then it is a great option. If it’s only a unlimited charging plan for nights. With no net or buy back. Then no. It sucks.
To clarify.
If the new plans or updated plan.
Has a $30 option to pay for Unlimited night charging. While keeping the Net metering or buy back. Then it is a great option. If it’s only a unlimited charging plan for nights. With no net or buy back. Then no. It sucks.
Or if they take away your control of setting on the power wall, essentially everything is at the mercy of Tesla, pay at least 30 + TDSP fees.
I guess I’m hoping it’s like when I finally purchased my MYP. I waited. I was going to purchase a Model 3 in 2017-18. But I didn’t want to give it a chance. Obviously that was a mistake. I kept driving my Ram 1500 for 5 more years. That’s about $18,000 - $24,000. I spent on gas. So I’m hoping it will be like my Tesla vehicle experience. When I picked up my Tesla from the delivery center. The next week Gas Ripped up. I was charging free at work. I saved thousands last year. Hopefully they come out with better plans. If not. Yes I’m still saving money. But I can get a better deal. With the Realiant free nights plan currently. I’m in for 12 months. I’ll keep the updates coming.
For me, since I am working from home and do not use it much, I set mine charge to 60% when the solar production peaks, the solar excess during the day usually covers any grid usage. If I just happen to go to a nearby SC, then I will charge it 90% since it is free for me. Free nights definitely come out better than any buybacks, keep it while it is still available.
wiltoking
Member
It's better than the Shell MP2 EV charging plan that only allowed for 2hrs of charging at night. Still need more details though, does this mean Tesla Electric knows what is being charged by your EV? Or is this just another way of saying "Free Nights" with a $30 minimum fee? Otherwise, how do you tell EV charging loads apart from the rest of the home?
wiltoking
Member
It definitely makes sense if you're already on the Tesla Electric plan. Charging the EV when I was on a Fixed Rate plan was about $50 a month, so if you have more than one EV the fee makes sense if you're not switching.
wiltoking
Member
I think the Tesla Electric plan is more for the ideal of moving everyone to renewables even if it's not the cheapest option for the consumer. That plus seeing how the summer buyback works (for those with PW) might make it worth it. With Free Nights and Solar (with a terrible buyback), we really limit our ROI on the system. At some point, the best you can do is just not spend anything but we can't make back enough on our investment to shorten it. Tesla already keeps the SERC credits, we don't have 1:1 net metering, and no incentives besides the Federal Tax credit. So in a sense, if Tesla Electric allows us to get more from our system by using the PW as a distributed energy storage for the grid and getting compensated for it, it improves the ROI overall. But from what I've seen of @Jones1 bills, he will need to be pulling in +200 dollars in credits during the summer!As long as I can charge two EVs unlimited at night and charge my powerwalls at night and only have a 6 dollar bill every month as currently is my case, Tesla electric would be a bad decision. Also since it’s Tesla electric and they can see Tesla charging I wonder if this means it’s truly ONLY car charging for free and not just free energy hours.
If I had an oversized system then maybe it would make sense because like you said the credits could potentially pay for the fee. It’s very interesting. Are you going to be our groups test subject for this one too @Jones1 ?
wiltoking
Member
lol I'm too late to the conversation!This is Betting. Waging high right now. With my current Tesla Electric bill. That during the summer months. I will be Profitable selling back to the grid. Vs using the grid. Waiting for ERCOT to do what they do best. F up.
wiltoking
Member
On a final note, Tesla came by yesterday and installed the missing expansion joints. Got the update today from Centerpoint that my interconnection permit has moved to "Inspection Submitted". Now it's on CEP to process for PTO approval. Time to unleash the beast!
@ 3 cents wholesale buyback means 10000 kwh, around 333kwh per day$300.
- need to tell the better half, we need a bigger system.
I’m hoping for some ERCOT $3 per kWh buy back.@ 3 cents wholesale buyback means 10000 kwh, around 333kwh per day
like the days before and on Christmas Day. But for weeks during the summer.Similar threads
