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Blog Tesla Sues Former Employee for Hacking Trade Secrets

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  1. Krugerrand

    Krugerrand Well-Known Member

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    The thing is, you can’t get blood from a stone. Does he even have any assets to seize - a guy who declared bankruptcy in 2004? I can’t imagine this guy has nearly enough money to cover his transgressions, so all he might have to bargain for reduced jail time is rolling on those who helped him/partnered with him/took his offered information and/or Tesla IPO.
     
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  2. bhzmark

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    He apparently planted malware that transmitted data to third parties on multiple computers. He is unlikely to do that on his own. Who were the 3rd parties? Did they supply him with the malware and hack tech? There could be more here.
     
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  5. bonnie

    bonnie Oil is for sissies.

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    Yeah, but ... no. A real whistleblower would have gone to the appropriate government agencies (and also have immediately had protected whistleblower status).

    Going straight to the media smacks of something else, something along the lines of 'I'll show them!'. And then the email exchange he said he had with EM... I could see sending someone an email saying they were a horrible person if they'd deliberately lied about my business. However, his response of 'you're getting what you deserve' is an odd response from someone who says he wasn't trying to be vindictive.

    At this point, his best move is to claim he's just a whistleblower, but his actions just don't support that.
     
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    That's not how any of this works....
    Whistleblower status is to protect against retaliation for reporting violations to authorities, not to negate illegal activity...

    Also pet peeve:
    So you do care... at least a little..

    Ninja-ed by @bonnie
     
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  7. EinSV

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    Great post but I would say his best move would have been to hire a lawyer before digging a deeper hole.
     
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    Do we even know if a criminal investigation has been started? Right now it would seem to be just a Civil litigation and nothing criminal.
     
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    The participants in this revolution are in a knife fight. Oil will not go silently into the night. Arm yourselves with your wits.
     
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  10. Krugerrand

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    Wait for it.
     
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    Tesla could be holding off on criminal charges as an incentive for him to disclose who the "third party" is so they can assess the extent of the harm done and then go after that party?
     
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    He guess he did; but typed .cn instead of .gov ;)
     
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    I, and I am guessing Tesla, consider the “blood” to be information in this case, not cash.
    A full list of people and/or companies who he worked with. Where the data went and how far in advance this was planned?
     
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    Tesla is suing its former employee for hacking and stealing data but he says he is a whistleblower who is looking to expose the company's malpractices. As if Musk needs more trouble!
     
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    This could perhaps count as a frivolous lawsuit
     
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    The plot thickens...
     
  20. tedowsley

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    True. There is a livelier discussion going on at the link given above by ItsNotAboutTheMoney. Perhaps you can join. I already did. :)
     

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