Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[StealthP3D]

So... at about 10AM PST today, my TSLA performance has made this year what I expect to earn this year in salary.

Should I go to work tomorrow?

Yes, you should.

 

[Silent Ludicrosy]

It's a little ironic that human-caused climate change which benefits tremendously from wide EV-adoption (and their Gigafactories to produce them) is stymied by 'protected' species of snakes or lizards.

It makes total sense that snakes and lizards want global warming to continue. They’re cold blooded and thrive in warm climates. I wouldn’t be surprised if big oil and big reptile are working together to stop Tesla.

 

[mejojo]

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Gott Van Damme!!!!

 

[Artful Dodger]

After-action Report: Tue, Jan 05, 2021: (Full Day's Trading)

Headline: "More ATHs +$20 Pop A/hrs"

Traded: $23,680,069,313.57 ($23.68B)
Volume: 32,254,112
VWAP: $734.17

Close: $735.11 / VWAP: 100.29%
TSLA closed ABOVE today's Avg SP
TSLA MaxPain (7:00 A.M.): $695.00 (+$30 from Mon)

TSLA S&P 500 Weight: 1.774086% (Jan 04)
Mkt Cap: TSLA / FB $696.811B / $771.801B = 90.28%
Note: Yahoo Finance yet to update TSLA Mkt Cap re shares issued Dec 11th (SEC Filing)
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CEO Comp. Status: (est'd Mkt Cap including Dec 11th shares)

TSLA 30-day Closing Avg Market Cap: $629.63B
TSLA 6-mth Closing Avg Market Cap: $416.65B

Mkt Cap req'd for 7th tranche ($400B) likely achieved on Tue, Dec 29, 2020
Nota Bene: Operational milestones are req'd for this tranche.
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'Short' Report:

FINRA Volume / Total NASDAQ Vol = 49.3% (48th Percentile rank FINRA Reporting)
FINRA Short / Total Volume = 59.1% (55th Percentile rank Shorting)
FINRA Short Exempt ratio was 0.55% of Short Volume (47th Percentile Rank Exempt)​

Comment: "TSLA reminds Bears that A/Hrs is time to hibernate"

QOTD: @Krugerrand "Kiss my cat"

View all Lodger's After-Action Reports

Cheers!

 

[StarFoxisDown!]

Combination of the upgrade, report of MIC Y margins, and a Dem sweep in GA senate could really make tomorrow interesting.

 

[printf42]

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I think the automotive/FSD valuation is here and we won't see the next sustained leg up until...

Wait, stop right there, FSD valuation is definitely not priced in, how would you price it even before you know how much impact it would have on people’s lives? I personally expect it to be bigger than PC or Internet or smart phone.

What’s priced in is the perceived slim chance of it becoming true and Tesla is the leader.(which to me is a certainty just not sure when exactly)

Wait to see when FSD actually arrived, Elon keep saying it would be the single biggest asset appreciation event in history for a good reason.

 

[goinfraftw]

Las Vegas Loop stations are coming along nicely from the outside...

https://www.reddit.com/r/BoringComp..._tunnels_ends_with_the_laying_of_the_asphalt/

 

[Unpilot]

FYI: A 15% increase every quarter (from the current $750 / share price point) in 2021 would result in a $1300 / share price by eoy.

...just to play with some calculations.

Listen ....my heart can't take many more OMG moments when I do the calculations of Share prices like this.
Let's just say it will rise....slowly like a gentle breeze ........

 

[Tyler34]

I got no problem selling 100 shares at $900, only sold 1 contract at that strike. Did this one "near strike" contract in lieu of selling any shares at inclusion "peak".

If you don't mind selling then why did you post about being worried?

Certainly no sillier than the many folks who sold $615 to $695 a couple weeks back.

Thats debatable.

One of the best pieces of advice thrown around here is to sell covered calls when you're thinking about paring down your holdings a bit. I sold a bunch of other cc's out to 2023 @ $1,200 and $1,300.

Those advising to sell covered calls aren't referring to a 1-2 year out covered calls, they are referring to 30-60 days out covered calls.

Will sell those shares with a smile on my face if I have to. That's selling at a $1T+ market cap.......the plan a lot of people here had for 2024/25 in an absolute best case scenario just 13 months ago.

Mania is grabbing hold here, most of the long time posters seems to stay quiet while the newly wealthy just keep cheering and buying weekly calls for seemingly no reason. I think we're in for a 2022 dip into 2023. My hope is that if I'm forced to sell significant shares at $1200, I'll be able to buy back at $800 within a reasonable amount of time. Corrections happen, global recessions happen.

Maybe the long time posters are quiet because they are busy figuring out the layout on their private islands/mountains

I think the automotive/FSD valuation is here and we won't see the next sustained leg up until the energy side is figured out by the wider market around 2023/24. Sometime soon the market will want to see a P/E below 1k, perhaps once Austin and Berlin are up and fulling running.

I don't agree FSD valuation is included currently. And the forward P/E is already below 200.

 

[AudubonB]

I just saw $750.

I just saw stars.

 

[FireMedic]

Listen ....my heart can't take many more OMG moments when I do the calculations of Share prices like this.
Let's just say it will rise....slowly like a gentle breeze ........

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Might be time to remove that sell order! Can’t be too careful.

 

[printf42]

I just saw $750.

Instead of closing an ITM short term call, I decided to sell a $750 call against it today, you’re welcome.

 

[LN1_Casey]

Instead of closing an ITM short term call, I decided to sell a $750 call against it today, you’re welcome.

I am very glad I didn't sell a $750 call for this week. However, I'm beginning to regret not closing my $800 call this afternoon. May have to roll that one.

 

[MXWing]

Whenever there is a jump after hours I have trouble sleeping in anticipation of what will happen in the morning. I will not sleep well tonight.

You would sleep better with a DUMP in the after hours?

You must be short?

 

[mejojo]

After a VERY productive 2020 of timing the market with calls, today I exercised a large number of call contracts and now have about half my bundle in shares. Semi-HODL brave new world. Excited to move to a new paradigm.

 

[Boomer19]

"Noted competition will include the Audi Q4 e-tron and Q4 e-tron Sportback, BMW iX3 (in Europe & China), Mercedes EQB, Volvo XC40, Volkswagen ID.4 and Nissan Ariya, while less expensive and available now are the excellent all-electric Hyundai Kona and Kia Niro, extremely well reviewed small crossovers with an EPA range of 258 miles for the Hyundai and 238 miles for the Kia, at prices of under $30,000 inclusive of the $7500 U.S. tax credit. Meanwhile, the Model 3 now has terrific direct "sedan competition" from Volvo's beautiful new Polestar 2 and the premium version of Volkswagen's ID.3, and next year from the BMW i4."

- Mark Spiegel

Interesting choice for the quotation... the blind leading the blind into further darkness.

kass quotes speigel?? really?

and they charge a subscription for “real money”... what a load of garbage!

to anyone paying for that trash service should cancel immediately. i’ve never paid for investment advice or service, aside from commissions on trading. i’ve never even really listened to anyone that told me what to trade. that’s not how it works. so kass, jonas, and even the favorite bulls can talk all they want. it doesn’t matter. if you are willing to follow someone else into a trade than you should be just as willing to throw that money on a ball game, or at the casino, etc.

however if you like to gamble, and i get that some of us do, then bouna fortuna. but don’t gamble using any of those clowns suggestions. at least pick your own trades, numbers, horses, whatever.

otherwise, if you’re novice, or completely lost, rewind anywhere between 10 or 1000 pages and start reading. you’ll get it soon enough.

 

[vikings123]

Does he usually release it to the general public 24 hours later?

Usually 4-5 days later. I think he will post his first public estimate on the 10th or 11th.

 

[BornToFly]

Well, you can put me in the group of longs that was dead wrong about post-S&P price action. I think that those of us that have held stock for 5+ years are just so used to seeing the stock drop on good news, etc., that we have a form of PTSD. As soon as it goes up, we start to shake and fear the smack down. I sold covered calls for Jan 2022 with 1000 SP on half my shares so that I had enough money in my pocket to guarantee my retirement. If the SP rises over $1000, I will roll them at the end of the year and tax deduct any losses, or just let them be exercised (since that would still give me more money than I ever imagined).

 

[Electroman]

This is funny. It's the first fund update I've seen that doesn't spend pages discussing what a terrible company Tesla is and how the payoff of his TSLA short position is imminent. In fact, he doesn't even mention TSLA!

But to answer your question, a clown has to act like a clown or he isn't a clown.

Does that mean he is not short Tesla directly anymore, and only through ARKK?

 

[Boomer19]

How else do you think they make their money servicing millions of accounts, most with very small account balances, for "free"? Check out the lawsuits.

A larger broker who specializes in servicing accounts of millionaires can make money off the sheer volume of money held in the brokerage. They also charge a small fee for each trade. This is inconsequential vs. what you get since you shouldn't have more than a few trades per year anyway. And you will get a more favorable price, on average, whether buying or selling.

tesla ferrari
- commissions
- margin lending/debits
- securities lending
- payment for order flow from liquidity providers

these are mainly how brokers make their money.

remember it’s brokers,
- not banks or investment banks or hedge funds or advisors etc