EV Production to begin in 2025.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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EV Production to begin in 2025.
Just some buildings, two trucks and a sugarload of solar to make it look green and friendly.
Artful Dodger
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Shortzes like to pile-on in the Pre-market, usually at a multiple (today its 1.0x)
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Just goes to show that a carbon tax would be just as effective (if not more-so) than a tax credit. Not to mention profitable for the taxpayers rather than a cost. No “subsidizing the rich” complaints either.
What? We are not at -2% anymore?! ..
Can we PLEASE have a big morning-dip? Looking to close out some covered calls & open some new LEAPs .. and a discount would be very welcome ..
Can we PLEASE have a big morning-dip? Looking to close out some covered calls & open some new LEAPs .. and a discount would be very welcome ..
One main campaign-idea of the greens in germany was to increase the carbon-tax & give every citizen ~100€/year cheque..
So if you are poor then this basically is selling your CO2-contingent onto the rich
Bad idea.One main campaign-idea of the greens in germany was to increase the carbon-tax & give every citizen ~100€/year cheque..
So if you are poor then this basically is selling your CO2-contingent onto the rich
That money instead could go back to the poor instead with different services. Doesn’t have to pay for EVs for the rich. Especially since the poor are often most affected by climate change. Would be politically positive for the majority of people I would think.
A pretty good ideal really. Can then just turn the screws as the economy adapts to low carbon.One main campaign-idea of the greens in germany was to increase the carbon-tax & give every citizen ~100€/year cheque..
So if you are poor then this basically is selling your CO2-contingent onto the rich
Exactly that.
One main argument against co2-tax was, that poor could be left behind, because they NEED to drive to work & cannot use EVs. Also they mostly rent.. and if the landlord still has a oil-heater, then they have to pay the co2-penalty without any chance to escape or change the situation.
So you can crank up the co2-prices faster & things will improve faster as the most polluting things will be shut off due to economics. And you kind of get a bit of wealth-transfer to the one that are not so lucky.
And because it is per person it also subsidizes families and single-parents more. Because your child also has a carbon-budged
Is the price of petrol regulated in UK?
If I was selling petrol there, I would 10x the price right about now..
It isn't, and, apparently, there is some price gouging taking place at the moment.
And takes TSLA right down to the... (checks chart, invokes @Artful Dodger ) right down to the upper BB. Wouldya look at that!
The Accountant
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Piper Sandler weighs in this morning . . . . .
thefly.com
"Potter now thinks Tesla will deliver 894,000 vehicles in 2021 and his Q3 delivery estimate increases to 233,000"
Q3 will be Tesla's 'strongest quarter ever,' says Piper Sandler
Piper Sandler analyst Ale... TSLA
thefly.com
"Potter now thinks Tesla will deliver 894,000 vehicles in 2021 and his Q3 delivery estimate increases to 233,000"
The Accountant
Active Member
If they assumes 894k for Full Year and 233k for Q3, that implies 275k for Q4.
That could translate to $2.50 non-GAAP EPS for Q4.
That's an annual run-rate of $10 EPS giving us a P/E of 79 at today's selling price.
79 P/E seems totally reasonable for a company whose YoY EPS growth would be…um…312%?
can I borrow your couch?
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Yeah, but the Upper-BB is a rising tide right now. This morning's 7 a.m. Max Pain update shows a step increase of $15 to $765. That's a big move in 1 day.
Cheers!
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Maybe. Hopefully Ford is now getting serious about EV's because their current production volume targets for the Lightning over the next few years is pathetic.
At 894k revenue could come in around $51.6B. In Q1 Tesla accounted for Elons next tranche of stock based compensation indicating it was probable Tesla would hit $51B in revenue.
If Tesla continues to be valued at a price to sales of 20, that translates to a share price of $1,042 and valuation just over $1T.
The +15k S deliveries really got me thinking about just how much people spend on the company they invest in as the stock skyrockets. People generally buy the products they invest in, but usually you get a thousand dollar smart phone, or a 1200 dollar video card as a splurge...however those that have hit Tesla pretty big are going for 150k Plaids..this positive feedback loop will find Roadster 2.0 sales in the stratosphere.
Here is the crazy part, Tesla has proven that they are better at manufacturing than legacy auto already because they can pump Roadster 2.0s or plaid S/X at insane rates vs legacy auto. Even those slow AMG engines need a lot of hand building as their complexity is pretty high.
Here is the crazy part, Tesla has proven that they are better at manufacturing than legacy auto already because they can pump Roadster 2.0s or plaid S/X at insane rates vs legacy auto. Even those slow AMG engines need a lot of hand building as their complexity is pretty high.
TheTalkingMule
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This is a good thing. The mild run up in TSLA is everyone catching up from an amazing spring/summer of news that didn't move the SP, and will continue. People also need to get ahead of 3Q earnings
THEN the market rotates back into "tech" and we get a macro bump between P&D and 3Q earnings. Delightful. There is no escape.
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