Yeah, some anecdotal evidence for demand - one friend is waiting for his 3 performance to be delivered in a few weeks, a neighbor who got a new 3 LR just asked last week if he could charge at my wallbox because he didn´t have one yet, and today I gave an introduction to a 3 LR for a colleague of a friend (he got it from a company that buys them from Tesla, rents them for a year and then sells them afterwards (likely even with profit to other EU countries after cashing in on the German EV incentive, they obviously didn´t do a good job explaining the car..)If only the demand was there/s
This is huge news!
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
You know the old saw about how the Market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent? Well, ever wonder how they know when you're about to go under? It's because they own all the data: they have retail's account balances, options positions, and expiry dates. They know when you will break; IBB doesn't even ask you before they liquidate your shares (not even the courtesy of a margin call).
That wasn't the last thing. That was the Q3 2022 S&P 500 index rebalancing, when Tesla peaked at 2.5% of the Index. The main stream media will not talk about that, but I mentioned it here at the time. That was FORCED buying of a large number of shares that HAVE to be delivered (Index funds will NOT accept a non-delivery report instead of a share -- Shortzes HAD to cover, and lo and behold! the SP went up for 13 straight days. Then, straight back to shenanigans ('cuz they can -- see the parable of the Frog and the Scorpion).
Those who HODL will be richly rewarded -- this PHASE is all about shaking loose as many shares as possible from Retail, and transferring them ON THE CHEAP to institutions and investment banks (who backed the wrong horse 5 years ago, and now scramble to recover).
That's what el Gordo's $145 b.s. is about -- not about value of the company, or prospects for future earnings. It's about shortzes getting their money back. FUD = THUD.
TL;dr Don't play options, avoid leverage, and then the chaotic swings of that hinged pendulum called the "Options Market" can't throw you off of what is clearly a winning ride: (TSLA)
Some trades might not be bear raid ; sometimes low asks could be margin calls, which I believe. (no proof).
I think whenever the market tanks big like today, somebody will get margin called. Many will sell before 4PM for market liquidity, but then at 4:01PM, the brokers start to liquidate holdings of those laggers.
It is a matter of guessing how many shares might be margin called, how low can you bid yet still get the fill for the quantity you want, and when to submit the bid in order to catch other traders playing this game off guard.
Not sure if my reasoning is true, but it worked for me today. Put in an order for $214.52 at 3:57PM and got filled at 4:01PM.
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I guess this is what "the steep part of the S-curve" looks like
3850/wk for Berlin at this point would be incredibly awesome and promising.
FSDtester#1
Large Member
I watched your video all the way through... very interesting.
Reminds me of my wife and her movements when I climb into bed at night
It's gonna be epic...now...how the crooks at Wall Street translate the epicness is left to be seen.
Since when was Gordo so bullish with his $145 PT
FSDtester#1
Large Member
No kidding!! Last interview I saw he said his 1 year price point was $20 - $25 per share...Since when was Gordo so bullish with his $145 PT
Not only were they animal meat, but I found out afterwards that they are the cheapest hotdogs you can buy (which could explain why it tasted so bad). Since our disabled daughter is a human garbage disposal that eats anything, my wife gets those dogs for $1/pack. That's right - an entire pack for $1. I'm pretty sure that means those are filled with all the animal scraps that other profit hungry hot dog companies have too much integrity to use. I'm lucky I didn't need to get my stomach pumped, but it probably took one year off my life....As others have noted, it’s not possible to determine what kind of dog you’re consuming BUT…
It’s no mystery whatsoever as to why you reported a lingering foul taste: French’s Yellow Mustard
(Edit: Apparently she got the cheap hot dogs to save more money since we were facing margin calls.... She won't do that again.)
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The reason you purchase shares is that it protects you against the company's bankruptcy and other liabilities. As Bkp_Duke says, they will still have to pay off any loans.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Margin calls don't need to result in share sales. The person receiving a margin call can also add equity, purchase puts, or sell calls as required to maintain their minimums. Trouble often come when the Broker changes their margin requirements on short notice (know surprise).
Shares are liquidated by Brokers "at the Market", which means your shares are sold at the National Best Bid and Offer - a SP is not entered by the Broker; they just accept whatever SP the Market is trading at ATM when selling your shares:
National Best Bid and Offer (NBBO) Definition | www.nasdaq.com
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Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
Honda Has No Plans To Put Fake Manual Transmissions In Its EVs
This came as a response when a Honda exec was asked what he thought of Toyota's promise to put simulated manual transmissions complete with clutch in its EVs.
insideevs.com
Toyota is just so lost. I can see this argument for the Dodge Hellcat, but really how many real performance Toyota stick shifts are sold?
Reminds me of the argument that smartphones (Blackberry and a few others) needed to have physical buttons to be functional.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Since when was Gordo so bullish with his $145 PT
Was it Leeroy Jenkins saying "at least I have chicken"? $140
/s
Knightshade
Well-Known Member
First, what do you mean by "Crashed hard"?
It's no longer a public company so it has no public stock price. Now if you mean "just starts setting cash on fire quarter over quarter because they can't pivot to profit" then....
Second- based on the most recent details of the financing (which aren't time-of-deal recent, but nothing significantly different was filed with the SEC) we know Elon took no margin loans of any kind to close the deal... he was personally bringing ~33 billion (which includes some amount, ~7 billion at last info, from other equity investors who get some % of ownership) and the other ~13 billion was bank loans on twitter (not margin loans).
So based on that there's no case where if anything dropped below anything his TSLA shares would be auto sold.
There IS a significant amount of servicing needed on that 13B debt-- at any point he might find the private company he owns in a position where it needs more cash-- and ONE route to get it would be selling TSLA shares... but hardly the only one. He could ask for more $ from existing equity investors-- or take on new ones-- or ask the banks to restructure the debt in some way (this last one is less likely because the banks already are gonna take a bath on the deal due to the delay and now being unable to resell the debt for a reasonable amount).
When I concentrated into Tesla Leaps last month, Enphase was one of a very select few I didn't sell. It's been a lifesaver for my portfolio this year.
lafrisbee
Active Member
Speaking of crashing hard.... the pic makes you think...
www.teslarati.com
Tesla driver gets minor injuries after train crashes into EV: report
There are several things that drivers never want to be involved in. A crash with a train is definitely one of them.
www.teslarati.com
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