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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Why do I get a feeling that soon TSLA will get a bunch of downgrades from others, further dropping TSLA share price (and further destroying our retirement futures)?The Oppenheimer downgrade is due to T related risks & Elon might be stepping down from T
Buckminster
Well-Known Member
Yes but it increases the total quantity sold, so that overall revenues and profits increase.
Most large tech stocks are making lows today.
Gigapress
Trying to be less wrong
Jan 1 will see a massive influx of new and reconfirmed arguments that Tesla loses money on every car without subsidies. Elon Musk will officially come out the closet as Q-anon, and he will post a poll on the bird app proposing that MLK Day be cancelled as a federal holiday due to its woke origins and and be replaced with a new holiday on Jan 6th to be called Patriots Day. By February, Tesla closes all galleries and service centers in California.
In March, Elon posts another: “Should Tesla and SpaceX relocate headquarters from Texas to Iran to more strongly indicate our unwavering support for oppression of women, ethnic minorities and homosexuals? I will abide by the results of this poll.”
Stock will fall.
Announcement of the new model will clearly indicate collapsing demand for the S3XY lineup. Market will see through the desperate attempt at pumping up the TSLA price. Stock will fall.
Cybertruck owners will be humiliated and ridiculed everywhere they go for driving such a stupid and ugly truck that can’t even roll coal or tow a boat more than 69 miles. Those remaining few owners who don’t shamefully hide it in their garages to admire in private will quickly rack up manslaughter charges for mowing down pedestrians with the sharp edges. After a lengthy series of departmental meetings discussing proposed regulatory changes, the NHTSA finally writes new rules making the Cybertruck illegal sometime around next December. Americans rejoice that the triangular menace is off the streets and question why an armored personnel carrier on wheels was ever allowed in the first place. Canadians politely repress their urge to tell us “We told you so”, as is tradition.
Unable to pay the bills anymore, Tesla forecloses on Giga Texas and GM buys it off auction, announcing a bold plan to lead the way by producing dozens of Made-in-Texas electric Silverados there annually by 2025, with headlights proudly installed by union labor in Michigan.
Stock will fall.
Throughout the year, quarterly financials will be so good that the market finally catches on to the fraud Tesla is brazenly committing in broad daylight. Stock will fall; Jim Chanos and David Einhorn will finally be billionaires again.
And they all lived happily ever after. Except TSLA bag holders. The end.
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only 10days to P/D, 10 days to updated forward and trailing 12M earnings. Financial performance and growth shown more clearly. Only so far a PT can go before sounding ludicrous. Right? Right?
larmor
Active Member
Another way to say it: financial performance and growth continues year over year and only so far can the market offer a lower price point for TSLA.
JupiterMan
Active Member
price targets were silly and irrelevant on the way up, and likewise on the way down.
Its just noise. Remember, If we followed upgrades/downgrades it is likely none of us would have even invested in the first place.
I am listening to a Twitter space call and some guy is saying that Tesla is going to have a huge earnings hit because of the $3500 discount in December and that we will probably miss earnings. Has anyone done the math on that?
ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
As long as 6 is less than 24, it’s horse manure.
I got in during the plateau from 2016-19. Not an early supporter, but earlier than some. I'm up close to 10x on those buys. If someone had asked me if I'd be happy with 10x in 5 years on that investment I'd have said yes, enthusiastically.
Being down from the highs a year ago is a bit of a bummer, never "lost" millions before; but I still can't complain about my returns. Still have faith in the future of Tesla, will have to wait a bit longer for TSLA to catch back up, but am certain it will. Not the time to be cashing in (*any*) stocks, hence the wisdom of having at least 2 years of cash to live on in retirement.
The true early investors are up a lot more than me, they should be fine unless they gambled (options/margin) or forgot that the market goes through dips from time to time, and failed to plan accordingly.
When in doubt, zoom out.
Stretch2727
Engineer and Car Nut
From the Quarterly Results Forum.
It was all I could afford in my trading accounts. I bought another share.
the brand may have less appeal amongst the woke pseudo
intellectuals, but have no effect on the rest.
the mass market is neither woke nor pseudo intellectual
of any kind.
P/D can change the negative narrative and clarify the
situation.
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intellectuals, but have no effect on the rest.
the mass market is neither woke nor pseudo intellectual
of any kind.
P/D can change the negative narrative and clarify the
situation.
.
I think certainly earnings will be affected but its only 1 month of the 3 month period so roughly 30-40% of sales. Also, their efficiency is likely increasing with Berlin and Austin which will help mitigate the effect on margins. They should also recognize some FSD revenue due to wide release of Beta which will also help. I think Tesla is doing the right thing. Honestly, this quarter's earnings matter to WallStreet but otherwise it does not matter whether they make money. Its much more important that they price low enough to suffocate the competition like Mercedes, BMW, Audi and others in typical Silicon Valley fashion. They can worry about margins when the European auto makers are dead. What do others think?
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ElectricIAC
Good-Natured Rascal
I’m willing to bet the loudest detractors from TSLA are shorts, competitors, non shareholders who used to align ideologically, shareholders playing with money they don’t have (margin)
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