ZachF
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8 years from now the base Model 3 will be better than the performance option.
ICE stands no chance when battery costs are dropping by 15% per year.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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8 years from now the base Model 3 will be better than the performance option.
ICE stands no chance when battery costs are dropping by 15% per year.
bhtooefr
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The Taycan's huge problem isn't a lack of regen braking, and in fact it has it, it's just on the brake pedal, instead of the accelerator pedal.
It's the gearing.
Specifically, in first gear, an additional stage of planetary gearing is engaged between the motor and the main reduction gearing, and this is hideously inefficient. They can lock this out (and avoid its losses) in second gear, but their control laws apparently left it in first gear during the entire EPA testing cycles, whereas real-world highway usage does get into second. That's why it looks so much better compared to its EPA testing.
(Mind you, it still doesn't look good. There's other problems, too - the dual permanent magnet motors may be easier to cool and more efficient at high loads, but the PM/induction combo is a thing on Teslas (and Toyota's AWD hybrids, actually) for a reason, because normal loads really only need a fraction of one motor's worth of power, and cogging torque is a real problem with PM motors.)
TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
CNBC is an embarrassment. Hedge fund guy no this morning pushing a "new bill market" narrative. The old guy host pumping a Trump election narrative as if everything is going to recover and resume.
Retail sales of course exploded. Everyone just walked out of a lockdown with more expendable cash than any point since 2006.
These clowns are manufacturing volatility. Pump and dump and repeat.
Retail sales of course exploded. Everyone just walked out of a lockdown with more expendable cash than any point since 2006.
These clowns are manufacturing volatility. Pump and dump and repeat.
PV4EV
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I wonder if an examination of the control code would reveal evidence of Porsche trying to hoodwink the public/EPA in order to get a decent result .. in the same way that VW scammed the entire world with their ‘hood up’ detector scam on diesel cars to artificially lower the emissions when the car was being tested stationary ..
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bhtooefr
Active Member
I actually don't think that's happening at all - if anything, given the particular direction of the disparity between testing and real world, I wonder if they're sandbagging to try to get the EPA to change regulations for EV testing. It's an old trick in performance-balanced motorsports classes, several of which Porsche competes in - sandbag in practice or at less important races, complain that the regulations are making you slow, and then if you're given concessions, take every inch of what you've been given to go fast.
Of course, that doesn't work if you're the only one sandbagging, and it's obvious that you're doing it.
Of course, that doesn't work if you're the only one sandbagging, and it's obvious that you're doing it.
There will be a catastrophic reversal of the situation in July - the extra $600/wk unemployment Federal supplement has provided more in pocket income than most minimum wage earners get by on. Anecdotally, girlfriend's 25 year old nephew said last night "All my friends have more cash than we've ever had". This is coming to an abrupt end. The rental defaults are about to start.
Krugerrand
Meow
So basically an antiquated system run by people who don’t have a clue.
Driver Dave
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jeewee3000
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Read this rumor a couple of years ago, about Tesla moving the next S/X to the 3/Y platform to save costs and more commonality. If true, its explains the prototypes of 3s having a larger battery and rumored air suspension coming to the 3/Y. Engineering work on the next S/X.
I'm usually never actually awake in the hour leading into open and the first 30-60 mins of trading so it's been interesting watching how the stocks in general react in that timeframe
ProfTournesol
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nobody can guess what spacex value will be, it's next level economy. Multiplanitary economy, way more then 20xRon thinks that Tesla can 10x from here and SpaceX can 20x.
Under that scenario, even if Elon sells ~20% of his stakes in both by 2030 he'd be worth over ~$600 billion...
Mo City
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Joe F
Disruption is hard.
The large bump this AM due to a UK Dexamethasone (a common steroid) study showing promise for a CV-19 cure. Seen on CNBC.
Autonomy Day was such a big deal for us here on the forum. TSLA fell markedly after the event. In other words there was a lot of buying on the anticipation. Can't help but feel like a lot of the recent climb has been due to the anticipation of Battery Day and Cybertruck factory announcements. Do not be surprised if there is a fall. We're supposed to be experienced now after Autonomy Day
Autonomy Day was for geeks,and frankly not many people think cars will be driving themselves anytime soon. Battery tech though is here and now, something people (investors) can mentally grasp.
Posted yet?
Scientists hail dexamethasone as 'major breakthrough' in treating COVID-19
This ought to help the markets.
Scientists hail dexamethasone as 'major breakthrough' in treating COVID-19
This ought to help the markets.
Fishy Fish
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TheTalkingMule
Distributed Energy Enthusiast
This seems......foolish
Ford Mustang Mach 1 to return to streets after 17-year absence. Here's what it looks like
You can't keep one foot in each camp, it simply has no chance of working. Massive red flag for F investors.
Ford Mustang Mach 1 to return to streets after 17-year absence. Here's what it looks like
You can't keep one foot in each camp, it simply has no chance of working. Massive red flag for F investors.
I sent a message to [email protected] complaining about the constant FUD from her. Will fall on deaf ears.
I would have tweeted something to her but she already blocked me from the last time I questioned her motives.
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