Anyone know the ground clearance of it? That's my only concern - it doesn't seem high enough. The Nissan rogue is popular because we can get around in pretty deep snow around Midwest with it.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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EVNow
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Why ?
The Nissan plant in Smyrna can make different vehicles, including Leaf & ICE cars in any sequence. Also in Sunderland.
BTW, what does Tesla do now for S&X ?
RobStark
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Norway is like a wealthy Gulf Emirate without the religious fundamentalism and corruption.
You're missing the point. Right now all that can be produced is being sold. To convert the line to a multi-car line means shutting down the line while the changes are made so that it will be a multi-car line. If it takes three weeks to do the conversion, that's three weeks worth of vehicle that can't be sold because they don't exist.
Antares Nebula
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One thing for sure: if any of the legacy OEMs had announced the Model Y (or something very similar), the press would be going bonkers with praise, with "Tesla Killer" headlines smeared in bold everywhere. This just shows how biased they are against Tesla.
Though it is not that visually new or different than the 3, the specs and pricing on this car make it a standout in the crossover market. If any other OEM had released this car instead, Tesla shareholders should truly be worried. But instead, while the press and masses mock Tesla, legacy OEM executives are realizing the horror of what just happened. The true ICE killer was quietly revealed to the world this week.
Though it is not that visually new or different than the 3, the specs and pricing on this car make it a standout in the crossover market. If any other OEM had released this car instead, Tesla shareholders should truly be worried. But instead, while the press and masses mock Tesla, legacy OEM executives are realizing the horror of what just happened. The true ICE killer was quietly revealed to the world this week.
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hacer
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Toyota alone sold 343,349 Camrys in the U.S. in 2018. Toyota Camry Sales Figures | GCBC which is a significant decline from prior years. Plus Honda sold 291,071 Honda Accord Sales Figures in 2018 So yeah, I can easily see 350k yearly demand for Model 3 once the FUD is gone.
I think you borked your numbers there.
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dgodfrey
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Thanks for chiming in. Hearing the opinion from one of the bigger demographics for the truck is valuable and I hope that Tesla reached out in some way similar to how they did for the Semi. My understanding is they consulted with a number of drivers/dispatchers/owners while in the design stage. I'd like to see what type of feedback they got from the twitter offer to send in your ideas.
Your concerns about the macho image is probably stronger for this vehicle type than most. I remember when Ram redesigned the grill back in the 90's and sales skyrocketed as it just looked stronger, bolder, tougher, I don't know. I really hope the truck that's meant for the masses doesn't throw the baby out with the bathwater. On the other hand, as a disrupter and first principles philosophy, I would love it if they could re-invent some of the traditional thinking that has kept most other trucks stagnant and similar, unwilling to take risks. Different for the sake of being different only works if it's also better. I think they can do it.
What do some of your like minded friends think not only of Tesla but would they buy a Tesla truck or any EV? I ask because I have a few friends with trucks and some of them are almost disgusted by the thought. I had a co-worker bragging about some new Hemi Ram with gobs of HP and Torque and a 0-60 time of maybe 4 seconds or it could have been 1/4 mile times but regardless, I mentioned the towing capacity of the Tesla truck at 300,000#'s and he kind of slithered back to his office and avoids the topic now.
It's this type of mindset that I hope the truck will just blow out every spec from all the competition just to watch them stammer with "yeah, but, but, something, something, bankruptcy".
Antares Nebula
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I guess that's what's confusing. I would have considered those small SUVs. I guess there is a gray area here, where small SUVs mesh into crossovers?? And SUV proper are larger SUVs
bdy0627
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Based upon the event that I saw, I would have to totally disagree. It was a pretty hohum presentation focused on the history/progress of Tesla's vehicles, just barely showing the Y. He almost forgot about the slide showing specs and pricing, barely going over it. I think if Elon wanted to pump the stock price, he would have approached it in a completely different way. It was intentionally really low-key. Kind of a yawner actually, and Elon has given plenty of presentations to know the difference. With the approach of allowing customers to order the specific configuration they want, Tesla is obtaining information that will be extremely helpful for planning the Y ramp, and this time they are getting that information way ahead of time unlike with the model 3.
They will get a bit of cash for Q1 from the initial orders, but I think that will be pretty modest, perhaps around $60-80M? I have a hard time thinking Tesla will get more than 30,000 orders at this point, but that's just my guess. I would have guessed completely wrong on model 3 reservations when that was revealed.
You are basically agreeing with my point that it was a bad presentation. I think Elon has to be more careful with his time projections now that the SEC is watching closely or he was just kinda depressed or off that night. I don't think it was a deliberate attempt to make it ho hum. He just didn't seem excited and I don't know why. I suppose getting some preorder info would be helpful to Tesla in designing the final stages of it or to gauge demand but it seems like they should have done a better presentation based in how important model Y will be to Tesla's future. Maybe trying not to destroy m3 demand by keeping it ho hum?
What is his username on here I wonder...
bdy0627
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The market is hyperventilating over the question of how much demand there really is for Tesla vehicles. That is currently blinding them to all else regarding Tesla. The model Y is not the question that the market wants an answer to right now. Once the demand question is resolved, the focus will shift again to profitability, but at that point I expect to see some of the negative pressure lifted from Tesla, at least temporarily.
No idea on orders...with m3 it didn't help to reserve early so I think fewer will order for model Y. There will be some of course but yeah probably not a huge infusion especially with it being 1.5 years from production on high end.
bdy0627
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I thought Elon was in a good mood. Even if he had totally nailed the presentation in terms of coming across polished, more like when he did the initial model 3 reveal, the intention was clearly to not emphasize too much about the model Y. No need to over-sell it at this point. Just get it out there in the minds of potential customers. That's how I saw it anyway. I don't think Elon is a great public speaker. He does great interviews, but I've been disappointed by many of the presentations I have seen him give. I would prefer to have someone more polished do the event, bringing out Elon for a portion of it. I realize there are lots of differences of opinion about that, that's just mine.
Because SUV, CUV, XUV are mainly marketing terms, they can mean whatever the manufacturer wants depending on what name they think will sell the most. Yes, I know there are standard definitions for each, but they're fuzzy enough to allow this for vehicles that aren't all that much different in size.
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