Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[DrMazeppa]

And he is getting a pay check most of us would envy.
46 out of 100 is less than a blinded guess and thinking that when sales are down the only culprit could be a slowdown of demand. Even a toddler could come to another conldusion when stores are empty and there is no inventory.

A sell off because of this nonsense? There are some people losing a lot of money because they listen to these clowns.

I still understand nothing about stock markets, but one thing is becoming pretty clear. These "analysts" only work as signal makers. They release their useless notes to inform all MMs it is time to coordinate (on top of that, most people know this and just follow the flow...). Remember the note in late May it was time to believe in TSLA? Just before the run up. Then we got the stupid note on Christmas eve, but the big buyer was still hungry so it did not work. Today, it worked (plus people taking profits).
Mostly to avoid paying a lot of money to options players I guess.

So, the sell off is not because of the analysis. To sum up, markets are pathetic.

 

[Nocturnal]

So if we have a pre-deliveries dip now, does that mean a post dip is less likely as the weak longs and short ammo have been shaken out? (I know who knows right?)

I still find that concept weird. I held (actually bought more) down to 200 SP. How are there any weak longs still in play?

I don't believe in karma, so full gloat mode activated I've been battling these idiots for over a decade while they've done everything possible to kill the one company which will probably end up doing more to push civilization towards a renewable energy future than any other. People fighting against a sustainable future for their own short term gains are enemies of humanity. Would you show mercy on aliens who came to terraform this planet for their own use while making it uninhabitable for us?

I do, and I believe they are getting what they deserve. Pollution and climate change are existential threats to humanity, threats to my lifestyle and health and more importantly threats to the lifestyle/health of my children and future grandchildren. This isn't a friendly game of poker. The short crowd are pushing dangerous propaganda and constantly lie.

I still understand nothing about stock markets, but one thing is becoming pretty clear. These "analysts" only work as signal makers. etic.

Their clients pay a lot of money for the privilege of underperforming boring index funds. ​

 

[kengchang]

The Bull Case for Long-Term Tesla Investors | Loup Ventures

The bull case for long term Tesla investors.

We attribute the recent move in TSLA shares to short seller covering. Over the past six months, short interest in Tesla has decreased from 22% to about 10%

10%? Isn't it hovering around 20% ($12B) right now?

The company sells its Full Self-Driving (FSD) software upgrade for $6,000 per vehicle.

$7000 now Gene!

 

[Jack6591]

I don't believe in karma, so full gloat mode activated I've been battling these idiots for over a decade while they've done everything possible to kill the one company which will probably end up doing more to push civilization towards a renewable energy future than any other. People fighting against a sustainable future for their own short term gains are enemies of humanity. Would you show mercy on aliens who came to terraform this planet for their own use while making it uninhabitable for us?

Agreed.

 

[MABMAB]

 

[strangethingintheland]

To sum up, markets are pathetic.

I agree with much of the sentiment in your post. However, I draw a slightly different conclusion.

To sum up, markets are not efficient (my uchicago economist son would be horrified to hear me say that)

However, it is this very inefficiency that allows one to purchase undervalued stocks, give them time to appreciate, and then realize the benefits of having better insight into the stock than the general market did (as reflected in the current price).

 

[izemize]

Stock drops 4%, but my call options are up a bit? Hmm..

That's because of the increased implied volatility in the option pricing. If this surprised you, you should learn a bit more about options.

 

[EVNow]

Stock drops 4%, but my call options are up a bit? Hmm..

Which ones ? Are you looking at ask/bid or last trade ?

 

[RFernatt]

Ugh...

Our [Long Term Test] Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Catastrophic Failure While Parked - Car & Driver

Edit: Looks legit. Just bad luck with 12V, rear motor failure. The app warned while it was parked, so at least it was proactive. Had to transport out of MI for service. Waiting for parts.

 

[Duffer]

I wasn't ready to take advantage of this dip on the good news from China Giga. I should know better. it's TSLA doh!

I am expecting a drop in SP after the "miss" in P/D numbers is announced by the analysts. This time, I do think that they will tone down their "updated" numbers somewhat in an attempt to convince more than just the bots.

Man, annoying that I was asleep early today (I was travelling home last night). I've been deleveraging during the rise and would gladly have releveraged some at $410 :Þ $420 isn't tempting enough.

Annual downtime for software maintenance/upgrades?

 

[Tim S]

Ugh...

Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Catastrophic Failure While Parked - Car & Driver

Please don't post a FUD-sounding link without a summary. I don't want to give them a click to find out what they're talking about.

 

[RFernatt]

Please don't post a FUD - sounding link without a summary. I don't want to give them a click to find out what they're talking about.

Sorry, it does look legit. Just bad luck with rear motor failure. The app warned while it was parked, so at least it was proactive.

I'll add a quick summary.

 

[kengchang]

Please don't post a FUD-sounding link without a summary. I don't want to give them a click to find out what they're talking about.

I will do the dirty work, failed 12V, RWD drive unit and pyroed battery connector.

 

[juanmedina]

Please don't post a FUD-sounding link without a summary. I don't want to give them a click to find out what they're talking about.

It's probably the 12V battery that went bad.

 

[M3Rider]

So, $16 off on 12M volume because of Cowen?
Macros were off too, but multiplier looks excessive.

I don't get it how every time someone unknown is able to cause so much damage and get away with it after their statements prove to be false.

Oh well, just another day.

 

[Nocturnal]

Ugh...

Edit: Looks legit. Just bad luck with 12V, rear motor failure. The app warned while it was parked, so at least it was proactive. Had to transport out of MI for service. Waiting for parts.

Shorts were all over that. 1 car breaks down and it's newsworthy for those nuts. WTF is that a news story for car and driver though?

 

[wipster]

Ugh...

Our Tesla Model 3 Suffered a Catastrophic Failure While Parked - Car & Driver

Looks legit. Just bad luck with 12V, rear motor failure. The app warned while it was parked, so at least it was proactive. Had to transport out of MI for service. Waiting for parts.

Maybe it's just the conspiracy theorist in me, but something smells funny here... also odd about the service aspect. I would have thought that given the usage of this particular M3, there would have been more attention paid to getting it diagnosed and repaired quickly.

But maybe I'm just suspicious..

 

[RFernatt]

Shorts were all over that. 1 car breaks down and it's newsworthy for those nuts. WTF is that a news story for car and driver though?

They have it as one of their long term test cars which they do report on regularly. This occurrence would be noteworthy for their car even if it is an isolated incident.

 

[Mike Smith]

Why this investor believes Tesla will become a trillion dollar company

 

[KarenRei]

Annual downtime for software maintenance/upgrades?

Suspended to disk for transport.