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Some Monday morning humor.

Einhorn: Tesla has been "abusing its stakeholders"

Einhorn also discussed Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), which he said has been "abusing its stakeholders" so much that he could write pages about it every quarter. This time he talked about once instance involving sudden unintended acceleration in Tesla vehicles.

He cited a study conducted by Dr. Ronald A. Belt which found an issue with how the Tesla braking system interacts with the battery regeneration system. The result is that in some situations, pressing the brake causes the vehicle to accelerate, and the harder the driver presses the brake, the faster in accelerates.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in January that it will investigate the complaints, although Tesla denies there is a problem. Einhorn said the more technologically complex products become with "intertwined hardware and software systems, the more difficult it is to design them for universal adoption in real-world large scale deployments.

He believes the combined software and hardware problem might be easily fixable and compared it to Boeing's issues with the 737 MAX. Einhorn added that a massive recall on a defective product can financially ruin a company and end management's career, but Tesla can't be trusted to do it on its own. He added that it will be up to the NHTSA to order a recall of Tesla vehicles with safety-related defects.

Einhorn also noted that there is speculation about Tesla joining the S&P 500, but he believes the company has been abusing the accounting rules.

"Through what appears to be sheer abuse of the accounting rules, TSLA has now contrived reported profits to make it technically eligible [to enter the S&P 500]," he wrote. In addition to its routinely questionable accounting maneuvers, Tesla appeared to defer employee compensation, depreciation expense on its new plant in China, and research and development spending."

He also called attention to the sharp increase in sales of regulatory credits in the automaker's latest earnings report. The company previously included a statement that it recognizes revenue on the sale of credits at the time control of the credits is transferred to the purchasing party.

However, Tesla sharply increased its recognition of regulatory credits sharply in the first and second quarters. Einhorn said that in the past, Tesla received cash for sales of regulatory credits, but this year they have "piled up in accounts receivable."

Further, he said Fiat Chrysler (FCAU) is the company's primary customer for those credits, and Tesla's recognition of the revenue from those credits isn't consistent with Fiat Chrysler's recognition of expenses for those credits. He questions whether Tesla's accounting and the way it handles the transfer of regulatory credits and payment for them conform to GAAP accounting.

"We suspect that TSLA changed its accounting policy during a non-audited quarter to manipulate eligibility in the S&P 500 index," Einhorn wrote. "The consensus is that S&P will add TSLA to the S&P 500 index at the next opportunity with a large weighting, forcing millions of passive investors to sell the other 499 stocks to make room for TSLA at whatever the price du jour. We think the S&P 500 Index Committee has a tough decision to make as to how to respond to being gamed like this."

When a major notorious Wall Street SHORT, a species that excels in abusing TSLA shareholders, comes out complaining about shareholder abuse, a) it’s projection (a lot of that going around these days) and b) you know Tesla’s upcoming split is causing unease amongst the shorts.

As the Randy Newman song goes, “Short people got / no reason to live...”
 
Some Monday morning humor.

Einhorn: Tesla has been "abusing its stakeholders"

Einhorn also discussed Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), which he said has been "abusing its stakeholders" so much that he could write pages about it every quarter. This time he talked about once instance involving sudden unintended acceleration in Tesla vehicles.

He cited a study conducted by Dr. Ronald A. Belt which found an issue with how the Tesla braking system interacts with the battery regeneration system. The result is that in some situations, pressing the brake causes the vehicle to accelerate, and the harder the driver presses the brake, the faster in accelerates.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in January that it will investigate the complaints, although Tesla denies there is a problem. Einhorn said the more technologically complex products become with "intertwined hardware and software systems, the more difficult it is to design them for universal adoption in real-world large scale deployments.

He believes the combined software and hardware problem might be easily fixable and compared it to Boeing's issues with the 737 MAX. Einhorn added that a massive recall on a defective product can financially ruin a company and end management's career, but Tesla can't be trusted to do it on its own. He added that it will be up to the NHTSA to order a recall of Tesla vehicles with safety-related defects.

Einhorn also noted that there is speculation about Tesla joining the S&P 500, but he believes the company has been abusing the accounting rules.

"Through what appears to be sheer abuse of the accounting rules, TSLA has now contrived reported profits to make it technically eligible [to enter the S&P 500]," he wrote. In addition to its routinely questionable accounting maneuvers, Tesla appeared to defer employee compensation, depreciation expense on its new plant in China, and research and development spending."

He also called attention to the sharp increase in sales of regulatory credits in the automaker's latest earnings report. The company previously included a statement that it recognizes revenue on the sale of credits at the time control of the credits is transferred to the purchasing party.

However, Tesla sharply increased its recognition of regulatory credits sharply in the first and second quarters. Einhorn said that in the past, Tesla received cash for sales of regulatory credits, but this year they have "piled up in accounts receivable."

Further, he said Fiat Chrysler (FCAU) is the company's primary customer for those credits, and Tesla's recognition of the revenue from those credits isn't consistent with Fiat Chrysler's recognition of expenses for those credits. He questions whether Tesla's accounting and the way it handles the transfer of regulatory credits and payment for them conform to GAAP accounting.

"We suspect that TSLA changed its accounting policy during a non-audited quarter to manipulate eligibility in the S&P 500 index," Einhorn wrote. "The consensus is that S&P will add TSLA to the S&P 500 index at the next opportunity with a large weighting, forcing millions of passive investors to sell the other 499 stocks to make room for TSLA at whatever the price du jour. We think the S&P 500 Index Committee has a tough decision to make as to how to respond to being gamed like this."

Hmmm, idea for a prime-time TV show about riches to ruins, will call it "The Sorest Loser"

Einhorn is a pos.
 
Hmmm, idea for a prime-time TV show about riches to ruins, will call it "The Sorest Loser"

Einhorn is a pos.
I still can't understand how managers with records that bad are able to keep investors locked in. The only explanations I can think of are:
1. Groups that don't care about losses, but just want somebody with a record to be able to bash Tesla.
2. uber-rich people that aren't paying attention, like I don't notice 5 bucks here and there.
 
Some Monday morning humor.

Einhorn: Tesla has been "abusing its stakeholders"

Einhorn also discussed Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), which he said has been "abusing its stakeholders" so much that he could write pages about it every quarter. This time he talked about once instance involving sudden unintended acceleration in Tesla vehicles.

He cited a study conducted by Dr. Ronald A. Belt which found an issue with how the Tesla braking system interacts with the battery regeneration system. The result is that in some situations, pressing the brake causes the vehicle to accelerate, and the harder the driver presses the brake, the faster in accelerates.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in January that it will investigate the complaints, although Tesla denies there is a problem. Einhorn said the more technologically complex products become with "intertwined hardware and software systems, the more difficult it is to design them for universal adoption in real-world large scale deployments.

He believes the combined software and hardware problem might be easily fixable and compared it to Boeing's issues with the 737 MAX. Einhorn added that a massive recall on a defective product can financially ruin a company and end management's career, but Tesla can't be trusted to do it on its own. He added that it will be up to the NHTSA to order a recall of Tesla vehicles with safety-related defects.

Einhorn also noted that there is speculation about Tesla joining the S&P 500, but he believes the company has been abusing the accounting rules.

"Through what appears to be sheer abuse of the accounting rules, TSLA has now contrived reported profits to make it technically eligible [to enter the S&P 500]," he wrote. In addition to its routinely questionable accounting maneuvers, Tesla appeared to defer employee compensation, depreciation expense on its new plant in China, and research and development spending."

He also called attention to the sharp increase in sales of regulatory credits in the automaker's latest earnings report. The company previously included a statement that it recognizes revenue on the sale of credits at the time control of the credits is transferred to the purchasing party.

However, Tesla sharply increased its recognition of regulatory credits sharply in the first and second quarters. Einhorn said that in the past, Tesla received cash for sales of regulatory credits, but this year they have "piled up in accounts receivable."

Further, he said Fiat Chrysler (FCAU) is the company's primary customer for those credits, and Tesla's recognition of the revenue from those credits isn't consistent with Fiat Chrysler's recognition of expenses for those credits. He questions whether Tesla's accounting and the way it handles the transfer of regulatory credits and payment for them conform to GAAP accounting.

"We suspect that TSLA changed its accounting policy during a non-audited quarter to manipulate eligibility in the S&P 500 index," Einhorn wrote. "The consensus is that S&P will add TSLA to the S&P 500 index at the next opportunity with a large weighting, forcing millions of passive investors to sell the other 499 stocks to make room for TSLA at whatever the price du jour. We think the S&P 500 Index Committee has a tough decision to make as to how to respond to being gamed like this."
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Is this Einhorn?:confused:
 
We can resuscitate the Iceland trip...

BTW, pre-market looks very fishy - capping at $1680, no? $1700 seems to be this week's target at this moment in time.

Yeah really strange that it's been trading in a really tight range 1675-1680 for the past hour or so. It might just be a low volume day where we trade in a tight range until we have another leak from Elon or until some big buyer decides to spike the drink with his way OTM weekly calls.
 
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Some Monday morning humor.

Einhorn: Tesla has been "abusing its stakeholders"

Einhorn also discussed Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), which he said has been "abusing its stakeholders" so much that he could write pages about it every quarter. This time he talked about once instance involving sudden unintended acceleration in Tesla vehicles.

He cited a study conducted by Dr. Ronald A. Belt which found an issue with how the Tesla braking system interacts with the battery regeneration system. The result is that in some situations, pressing the brake causes the vehicle to accelerate, and the harder the driver presses the brake, the faster in accelerates.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in January that it will investigate the complaints, although Tesla denies there is a problem. Einhorn said the more technologically complex products become with "intertwined hardware and software systems, the more difficult it is to design them for universal adoption in real-world large scale deployments.

He believes the combined software and hardware problem might be easily fixable and compared it to Boeing's issues with the 737 MAX. Einhorn added that a massive recall on a defective product can financially ruin a company and end management's career, but Tesla can't be trusted to do it on its own. He added that it will be up to the NHTSA to order a recall of Tesla vehicles with safety-related defects.

Einhorn also noted that there is speculation about Tesla joining the S&P 500, but he believes the company has been abusing the accounting rules.

"Through what appears to be sheer abuse of the accounting rules, TSLA has now contrived reported profits to make it technically eligible [to enter the S&P 500]," he wrote. In addition to its routinely questionable accounting maneuvers, Tesla appeared to defer employee compensation, depreciation expense on its new plant in China, and research and development spending."

He also called attention to the sharp increase in sales of regulatory credits in the automaker's latest earnings report. The company previously included a statement that it recognizes revenue on the sale of credits at the time control of the credits is transferred to the purchasing party.

However, Tesla sharply increased its recognition of regulatory credits sharply in the first and second quarters. Einhorn said that in the past, Tesla received cash for sales of regulatory credits, but this year they have "piled up in accounts receivable."

Further, he said Fiat Chrysler (FCAU) is the company's primary customer for those credits, and Tesla's recognition of the revenue from those credits isn't consistent with Fiat Chrysler's recognition of expenses for those credits. He questions whether Tesla's accounting and the way it handles the transfer of regulatory credits and payment for them conform to GAAP accounting.

"We suspect that TSLA changed its accounting policy during a non-audited quarter to manipulate eligibility in the S&P 500 index," Einhorn wrote. "The consensus is that S&P will add TSLA to the S&P 500 index at the next opportunity with a large weighting, forcing millions of passive investors to sell the other 499 stocks to make room for TSLA at whatever the price du jour. We think the S&P 500 Index Committee has a tough decision to make as to how to respond to being gamed like this."
Not 499, 504. How does this guy manage a fund and not know there's 505 companies in the SP 500? Sounds like his fund would underperform the market by a lot
Oh wait, it does
NVM
 
Some Monday morning humor.

Einhorn: Tesla has been "abusing its stakeholders"

Einhorn also discussed Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), which he said has been "abusing its stakeholders" so much that he could write pages about it every quarter. This time he talked about once instance involving sudden unintended acceleration in Tesla vehicles.

He cited a study conducted by Dr. Ronald A. Belt which found an issue with how the Tesla braking system interacts with the battery regeneration system. The result is that in some situations, pressing the brake causes the vehicle to accelerate, and the harder the driver presses the brake, the faster in accelerates.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in January that it will investigate the complaints, although Tesla denies there is a problem. Einhorn said the more technologically complex products become with "intertwined hardware and software systems, the more difficult it is to design them for universal adoption in real-world large scale deployments.

He believes the combined software and hardware problem might be easily fixable and compared it to Boeing's issues with the 737 MAX. Einhorn added that a massive recall on a defective product can financially ruin a company and end management's career, but Tesla can't be trusted to do it on its own. He added that it will be up to the NHTSA to order a recall of Tesla vehicles with safety-related defects.

Einhorn also noted that there is speculation about Tesla joining the S&P 500, but he believes the company has been abusing the accounting rules.

"Through what appears to be sheer abuse of the accounting rules, TSLA has now contrived reported profits to make it technically eligible [to enter the S&P 500]," he wrote. In addition to its routinely questionable accounting maneuvers, Tesla appeared to defer employee compensation, depreciation expense on its new plant in China, and research and development spending."

He also called attention to the sharp increase in sales of regulatory credits in the automaker's latest earnings report. The company previously included a statement that it recognizes revenue on the sale of credits at the time control of the credits is transferred to the purchasing party.

However, Tesla sharply increased its recognition of regulatory credits sharply in the first and second quarters. Einhorn said that in the past, Tesla received cash for sales of regulatory credits, but this year they have "piled up in accounts receivable."

Further, he said Fiat Chrysler (FCAU) is the company's primary customer for those credits, and Tesla's recognition of the revenue from those credits isn't consistent with Fiat Chrysler's recognition of expenses for those credits. He questions whether Tesla's accounting and the way it handles the transfer of regulatory credits and payment for them conform to GAAP accounting.

"We suspect that TSLA changed its accounting policy during a non-audited quarter to manipulate eligibility in the S&P 500 index," Einhorn wrote. "The consensus is that S&P will add TSLA to the S&P 500 index at the next opportunity with a large weighting, forcing millions of passive investors to sell the other 499 stocks to make room for TSLA at whatever the price du jour. We think the S&P 500 Index Committee has a tough decision to make as to how to respond to being gamed like this."
Sign me up for some more abuse.
 
Some Monday morning humor.

Einhorn: Tesla has been "abusing its stakeholders"

Einhorn also discussed Tesla (NASDAQ:TSLA), which he said ...

a lot of BS stretching reality beyond recognition

Gotta warn Mr. Unicorn: with so much stretching, you can easily rip your short shorts and that would be embarrassing -- almost as much as turning into a millionaire from a billionaire due to shorting TSLA!
 
Yeah really strange that it's been trading in a really tight range 1675-1680 for the past hour or so. It might just be a low volume day where we trade in a tight range until we have another leak from Elon or until some big buyer decides to spike the drink with his way OTM weekly calls.
There. now you happy??

$1,701.95.
 
To those that have done well while doing good — those that have prospered while advancing sustainable transportation and renewable energy — I would like to meet. I feel as though I have a group of virtual friends sharing common beliefs; I would love to put faces and voices to many that have become fixtures in my life. I am proud to call you friends, and hope we can take it to the next level.

In the near future, we will see pandemic remedies. Once the time arrives, my greatest hope is that can meet in person.

We can just have one big awkward zoom meeting.

"So who here thinks the price is gonna go UP?"

"I like driving Teslas, they are fun!"

"What's your favorite color?"

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Perhaps FOMO market buy orders accumulate on the Robinhood-type platforms over the weekend that spike demand when the session opens? According to RobinTrack, TSLA is the second most "popular" equity after AAPL on their platform. It's nice to be "popular" for us long-term HOLDRS.

I'm sure this news before the open helped, too:

"Wedush Lifts Tesla's Price Target to $1,900 From $1,800 as China Demand Accelerates, Maintains Neutral Rating"
 
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