Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable

[Blue horseshoe]

Real time big option flows according to FlowAlgo has been non existent today. I am still building conviction that FlowAlgo catches all the big options flow correctly.
Never seen it so empty since the snP announcement.

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Must be a glitch. There was a large 6,000+ calenders spread order placed at 633am pacific time that I saw this morning. Not at a computer but I think it was Feb/March calls

 

[Artful Dodger]

Impeccable timing if he did that...has to go down as one of the worst time trades in history.

Toilet Boi: "Hold my tooth brush..."

 

[15Peter20]

Do you remember last Tesla stock split?

I do, but I don’t know why that had such a positive effect either, unless I totally misunderstand the concept.

which is quite possible, nay likely

 

[amolina]

Must be a glitch. There was a large 6,000+ calenders spread order placed at 633am pacific time that I saw this morning. Not at a computer but I think it was Feb/March calls

What tool do you use?

 

[loquitur]

Article by our friend.. /s

David Trainer
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This reminds of the running jokes (over many years) by a certain antler-bearing writer for Macworld.com
called the Macalope. You see, for even many more years Apple was conveniently misunderstood as
being "beleaguered", which fit certain agendas of AAPL stock influencers.

So, the Macalope has funny columns referencing the pontifications of "The Forbes contributor network
and home for wayward opinions", or "The Forbes contributor network and easy bake oven school", or
"The Forbes [...] and artisanal hysteria works", and ... you get the idea!
Forbes is a bunch of pay-by-the-word hacks to get ad click revenue.

Anyhow, this is not news to followers of AAPL, but check out a recent column (about 5G) mentioning
"and Institute for the Advancement of Saving Your Bodily Fluids in Jars in Your Basement"

Golly, 5G: Apple’s big marketing tool – Everydays Electronics

 

[2daMoon]

Do you remember last Tesla stock split?

In addition to that, I like to believe it makes the shorts snort.

 

[Blue horseshoe]

What tool do you use?

That was on the tdameritrade think or swim desktop app. Wish it showed on the mobile app, but on the desktop you see realtime option trades (like level 2) and you can see the top ten largest option trades that have gone through

 

[Mengy]

Nope. All Tesla.

Not THAT hard, see below.





For example- buy at $498.32 (all figures in post split for simplicity)- plus as much as they let you get on margin with a 30% margin requirement.

SP is $330 a week later, you get heavily margin called including the margin requirement jumping way up to 70% as Etrades did several times and have to sell ALL those margin shares, plus some of the original shares, just to cover.

Now repeat that again on the Sept 21->24 dip... and the Oct 1-2 dip.


Add in wasting some $ (including margin $) on weeklies that expire worthless and you get there soon enough.

Margin is a helluva drug if you don't know WTF you're doing.

It's a shame he didn't simply take that initial $90K, buy 500 shares of TSLA @ $180 each (split adjusted), and then HOLD it until today. At $570 share price he'd be up by $195,000 without having to do anything at all.

 

[AimStellar]

175
545,00
Limite
545,000
2 déc. 2020
09:39
175 / 175
Exécuté


I really don’t get how my buy order of 175 shares@545 went through at 9:39AM

Is this you Sir!?! (Note slight time difference; however...)

 

[Prunesquallor]

For those who missed it: the AstonGate PR scandal has now made it into mainstream media, with a Guardian article published today revealing additional details, such as:

- The PR firm's director, Rebecca Stephens, is married to Aston Martin's government affairs director (not sure what that is... possibly the official spin-doctor?) AND a part-time NHS nurse. Which clearly qualifies her to put out a research report on transportation emissions.

- According to her, the report was "compiled" by the companies that commissioned it; but according to Bosch (one of the companies that commissioned it), it was "drawn from independent, referenced data".

You have no idea how badly I want this thing to blow up in their faces and get more airtime than that original report got, to the point where no "study" on combustion-vs-electric emissions - or synthetic eco-fuels, or hydrogen, or PHEV, or "self-charging", or any other such nonsense - sponsored by automakers is ever taken seriously by the public again. As it shouldn't!
Aston Martin in row over 'sockpuppet PR firm' pushing anti-electric vehicle study

Forbes piles on
Electric Vehicles ARE A Silver Bullet For Zero Emissions – Don’t Believe The Fossil Fuel Hype

Kudos to Auke Hoekstra for doing the heavy technical lifting for the debunk.
https://twitter.com/aukehoekstra/status/1332464525602410498?s=21

 

[Cherry Wine]

Nope. All Tesla.

Not THAT hard, see below.





For example- buy at $498.32 (all figures in post split for simplicity)- plus as much as they let you get on margin with a 30% margin requirement.

SP is $330 a week later, you get heavily margin called including the margin requirement jumping way up to 70% as Etrades did several times and have to sell ALL those margin shares, plus some of the original shares, just to cover.

Now repeat that again on the Sept 21->24 dip... and the Oct 1-2 dip.


Add in wasting some $ (including margin $) on weeklies that expire worthless and you get there soon enough.

Margin is a helluva drug if you don't know WTF you're doing.

Margin is bad. Weeklies are way, way worse.

 

[Curt Renz]

Fortune - this morning: Elon Musk’s rocket ride

Subtitle:

SpaceX is soaring. Tesla is roaring. How the world’s most creative and controversial CEO is transforming one industry after another—and why he’s Fortune’s Businessperson of the Year.

 

[elliott82]

Or if you’re an Apple person...

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Is that your pulse!?!??? Call 911 inmediately!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheTalkingMule]

Push it dooooooowwn! Wasn't planning to buy anything,but if we're here on rational IV next Tuesday......options will be tempting.

 

[vikings123]

What tool do you use?

Yeah the option flow is definitely very active. Just saw a bunch of puts getting bought in the past hour or so, somebody knows something? Or somebody just avoiding margin calls by buying cheap puts? The 3 million$ bet is interesting, or maybe just one leg of a spread?

 

[M|S|M MYP]

Fortune - this morning: Elon Musk’s rocket ride

Subtitle:

SpaceX is soaring. Tesla is roaring. How the world’s most creative and controversial CEO is transforming one industry after another—and why he’s Fortune’s Businessperson of the Year.

No wonder we are in the red today

 

[Curt Renz]

Benzinga - this morning: Musk: Tesla Full Self-Driving Will Be Ready In 2021

 

[AimStellar]

CNBS --> Elon As Newly Crowned World #2 Wealthiest

Anchor 1: "Nonsense"
Anchor 2: "Nonsense"
Anchor 3: "Something re: Elon's originally stated Mars goal was [this] ... [loads of laughter on set] ... yet it's already [this] date!!"

(whole panel loses their minds)​

Anchor 4:

• (no words yet -- just a massive, TSLA FOMO smirk ... )
• (struggling mightily, the smirk begins its transformation -- rapidly now -- into a face of ... pure anger, wow!)
• (the most strained, blatantly fabricated smile ever seen appears -- a Guinness World Record is awarded)

Anchor 1: "Anchor 4 -- Did we lose Anchor 4?"

Anchor 4: "WELL. BUT. HOW MUCH OF HIS "WEALTH" IS LIQUID?"

 

[AimStellar]

Why would a split be popular? Is it just that it allows the smaller investor in to play?

While this calls for a subjective answer, the objective one is stock splits are viewed favorably b/c of the SEC mandated entitlement to a 20% stock price run up in advance of said split. See, e.g., AAPL (2020); TSLA (2020).

 

[M|S|M MYP]

While this calls for a subjective answer, the objective one is stock splits are viewed favorably b/c of the SEC mandated entitlement to a 20% stock price run up in advance of said split. See, e.g., AAPL (2020); TSLA (2020).

As we all know and based on the professional anal cysts that cover Wall St...a 'stock split' does nothing for a company..unless its $TSLA and then it goes up 300% give or take