This place sure changed. Like someone turned on the light and all the cockroaches were gone in 3 sec flat. (Actually a memory from living in Fla).
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It was the moderators experiment shining the light on the dark corners of our souls. It gave us collectively a moment of reflection and deep soul searching.This place sure changed. Like someone turned on the light and all the cockroaches were gone in 3 sec flat. (Actually a memory from living in Fla).
My Take:1. Avoid WOT. (Wide Open Throttle)
2. Avoid DC fast charging.
3. A lot of worry on the shortening of the 5 sec limit for WOT which existed since the car has be launched. That shortening of this time maybe the "software" fix Ford plans.
Oh, perhaps that's why the 5 sec max for WOT, plenty of time to hit a 0-60 spec. What other spec is in question? Not sure it fails legally, but sure would frustrate me as a consumer. I could see a class action, but that will likely be many moons from now.Not sure a software only fix will even be legal. These cars are sold based on performance. If the cars no longer perform the way they were advertised due to a manufacturer change, there will be legal ramifications. Most likely a short term software fix and longer term a hardware fix will be required. Otherwise there will be a big lawsuit.
Allow for longer WOT when the car detects that it is being tested by regulators (or journalists), and go back to shortened WOT in daily driving. VW can show them how to.Oh, perhaps that's why the 5 sec max for WOT, plenty of time to hit a 0-60 spec. What other spec is in question? Not sure it fails legally, but sure would frustrate me as a consumer. I could see a class action, but that will likely be many moons from now.
Allow for longer WOT when the car detects that it is being tested by regulators (or journalists), and go back to shortened WOT in daily driving. VW can show them how to.
Hard to say, I just recall a couple years back, Apple had a hardware defect in one of their phones where it was crashing and they "Fixed" it by throttling the CPU sooner and there was a big lawsuit over it.Oh, perhaps that's why the 5 sec max for WOT, plenty of time to hit a 0-60 spec. What other spec is in question? Not sure it fails legally, but sure would frustrate me as a consumer. I could see a class action, but that will likely be many moons from now.
Definitely living in a simulation.
Upon review it should be noted that I omitted a red circle in the first half of 2021 when some modest Tesla vehicle price increases occurred, as indicated in Rob Maurer’s table.Gas Prices Increase Tesla Demand Part 2
People mainly care about gas prices. When gas prices spike, they start researching EVs and many of them place orders for Teslas and force Tesla to raise prices again.
The chart below illustrates not only that the timing of price increases aligns with gas price spikes and with the related Google searches I showed a few days ago, but also that the largest Tesla price increases happened in March when the largest gas price increases occurred.
I challenge anyone who hypothesizes that Elon's politics, Twitter acquisition, etc. are negatively affecting demand substantially to bring forth actual data to demonstrate that. If you do not have any such data, please stop cluttering the thread with inflammatory and mod-prohibited opinions based on your feelings and anecdotal experiences. Remember, as Dr Feynman said, the easiest person to fool is yourself. This is a place for science. Thank you.
Note: The vertical axis starts at $1.50/gallon, not $0. This is the EIA's chart, not mine. My red annotations indicate when US Tesla prices increased.
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Definitely requires a complete battery pull if they need to change out the contactors for upsized capacity. There is not access under the rear seat like the Model 3 and I believe other Tesla's. There was one owner that had documented a contactor replacement (not fix) with pictures with the battery out and lots of other things taken apart to get to it.Ford and Volkswagen expand EV partnership to a second electric model for the European market
Ford said it now expects to produce 1.2 million electric vehicles using Volkswagen's platform over six years, starting in 2023.www.cnbc.com
Now we know what this was REALLY about!
Ford has a real mess on their hands with the Mach E issue though. The OTA fix will likely cripple the car in some way, maybe enough for legal action by owners. A massive recall to actually fix the issue is incredibly expensive and will take months if not a year to get through everything.
Corvair/Nader posts that do not deal with Tesla are Unsafe at Any Speed.
It's very interesting because this maps out so well to the rise in sales of compact cars during the early 80s during the oil crisis.In any case, this body of objective evidence builds a strong case that high fuel prices are overwhelmingly the main bait that makes people want to learn about EVs and Teslas, and we know all the other reasons why what they learn ends up being so compelling as to make them want to buy one.
I don't think I'd be driving/own a Tesla if it had a 5 sec WOT limitation. I literally do this everyday...multiple times...it is my joy.I spent some time on the Mustang forums trying to understand the contactor issue better. It appears this has been known issue for a while as several owners had failures.
The consensus amongst the owners was:
1. Avoid WOT. (Wide Open Throttle)
2. Avoid DC fast charging.
3. A lot of worry on the shortening of the 5 sec limit for WOT which existed since the car has be launched. That shortening of this time maybe the "software" fix Ford plans.
My take.
A Mustang that can not do WOT is not a Mustang. Ford decided on the Mustang name and it should really live up to the heritage. Honestly hope Ford gets its act together.
Is today a dead cat bounce? I wanted to buy more at $400 or maybe even $300.
Hoping for a large drop in coming weeks.
It would be really annoying for sure, and I probably wouldn't own one either.I don't think I'd be driving/own a Tesla if it had a 5 sec WOT limitation. I literally do this everyday...multiple times...it is my joy.
And if Ford does further limit WOT, I think a class action is inevitable.
Usually I ask the internet questions, not the other way around.Is today a dead cat bounce? I wanted to buy more at $400 or maybe even $300.
Hoping for a large drop in coming weeks.
I see you're new here. Did you try asking Krugerrand?Is today a dead cat bounce?
The sad part is when gas prices go down for a week, consumers tend to forget the high prices and go back to the gas guzzlers only to be shocked when gas prices rise again (as if gas prices were never high before). Of course, the smart ones buy Teslas then.It's very interesting because this maps out so well to the rise in sales of compact cars during the early 80s during the oil crisis.
The obvious difference being the fact that the cost to operate a Tesla is almost completely detached from the cost of oil. So not only are the vehicle sales pushing hard towards EVs, but the tolerance for higher priced vehicles is increasing as well.
The big question mark in my head is if/ when oil prices come down what happens to consumer's willingness to pay up for a Tesla?
Might see a bit of softening demand if gas prices drop too much.