Can anybody really control the macros? Just seems you can't be happy with anything except a 10% day where the market isn't doing anything. Today is a ~1.5x beta... that really isn't bad at all especially after the beta of the last week and two months.
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Tesla, TSLA & the Investment World: the Perpetual Investors' Roundtable
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Huh. So you’re saying ‘stock prices climb a wall of grumpy’?How am I just as grumpy now as I was when markets opened this morning?
…………the fact that Tesla is easily being capped to underperform by quite a bit at this point. Should be up 7.5%……doesnt look like it can even hold a 6% gain
Consider me, not impressed
I could’ve sworn the saying was different somehow.
2daMoon
Mostly Harmless
Huh. So you’re saying ‘stock prices climb a wall of grumpy’?
I could’ve sworn the saying was different somehow.
Keep it under your hat, but @StarFoxisDown! is baiting Murphy using reverse psychology.
... and it is working.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
Probably the most important thing Powell said was that they are watching the economy and they are willing to adjust course if the data shows issues. If we get bad GDP data or significantly more weakening between now and Sept... we're likely to see the rate increases slow or stop and QT adjustments. That'll soften some of the narrative that the Fed is 100% dead set on inflation and economy be damned.
pitabun
Member
I expect TSLA to trade at it's beta and/or outperform it's beta everyday.......since the company outperforms expectations for earnings quarter after quarter after quarter.
Sorry but I don't get complacent with watching obvious shenanigans from Wall St. As someone pointed out earlier, TSLA is lower than it was a year and a half ago. 7% lower. Some people will look at other stocks and say "But look at how well it's doing compared to those!"
Well guess what......those companies didn't post 600% net income growth YoY all throughout 2021 and then post 600-700% net income growth for 2022 so far. So no, I'm not going to be happy with the fact that Tesla has held up better than crap companies with no earnings and sky high PE's or no earnings at all that have fallen 70-80%.
Wall St, through their arrogance and stupidity, got TSLA wrong. And guess what.......it didn't matter. They simply pull the same shenanigans time and time again and were all to have plenty of opportunities to buy in at the same price as a year and a half ago.
Well, now we know why. Most analysts and big buyers live in big cities.
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Sticking Your Face In The Exhaust Stack Of A Diesel Pickup Is A Terrible Idea
Because he apparently 'owed' the driver, this guy stuck his head into the exhaust stack of a pickup truck while the vehicle was being revved
www.carthrottle.com
crazy dumb.
cognitive decline may be exponential
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
All Tesla's now come with "Coal-roller Defense Mode": put the coal plants out of business. 
Cheers!
Cheers!
The market conditions today vs 18 months ago are just so incredibly different. The risk appetite is monumentally lower. If you can't acknowledge that, you'll be very disappointed in everything but the top 10% of bull markets. 18 months ago there was a ton appetite for anything that had growth runway... today profits and cashflow (esp) are king (which is why Tesla has been outperforming of late). We literally have trillions of dollars that have been taken out of the markets and sitting on the sidelines waiting for the smoke to clear. When that starts coming back in, you'll see the appetite for risk grow (I think we are seeing signs of it happening).
When Elon isn't shooting Tesla in the foot with stock sales, Tesla is being appreciated by the market and vastly outperforming the market. Even with those times though, Tesla still remains one of the best returning stocks because of the financial performance.
But also here's the thing.... Wall Street will almost always win. When they lose, they get bailed out. It is a rigged game and will remain a rigged game. You're spinning your tires being mad at it instead of understanding and taking advantage of it. It's like being mad at Alabama football for being good instead of betting with them.
Sums it up for dumb dumbs like me. Post of merit nomination
Informative. Two more questions.
How often does this happen.
Is there an avenue for 3rd party repairs after the warranty is out or will it always be an expensive battery replacement?
For old 2012-early 2016 Model S packs it is happening more often now. For newer packs it doesn't seem to be as bad.
And no, the only repair options are for the electronics/contactors inside the pack. Nothing can be done at the cell/module level. There are two third party shops that say they can "snip bad cells" or replace modules, but that doesn't last long before the pack fails again. There are two reputable third party shops that say the only way to repair a car with a bad cell is to replace the entire pack. (Which they can normally do cheaper than Tesla, though Tesla offers a better warranty than these shops.)
META's guidance is pretty light. Flies in the face of Microsoft's. Next up tomorrow, Apple.
This only works if they cover the spread
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
old style packs could be sold for storage use. They have modules and if only one cell is bad you can reuse all the other modules but that one for stationary storage.
Selling your old pack that way can offset the cost of a new pack if you are getting a newer used pack.
If you are buying a new pack form Tesla they take the old pack as part of the price for the new one (they don't tell people what the value of the old pack is, they just say Old pack + X$ in fine print and say X$ in the big print).
So... like buying calls!This only works if they cover the spread
It has been a while since I've looked (going on years since I don't watch enough football to bet anymore), but there was one point where Alabama had something like a 75% win percentage even against the spread that dated back 5+ years.
Artful Dodger
"Neko no me"
This is Germany. 6 full days a week would be an abnormal expectation for workers. 5 1/2 could be in the cards.Multiple sources have said Berlin would be moving to 6 day work weeks going forward. So who knows what to believe
If 6 days/week this is true, it’s 1800/week and 3600/week
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