Knightshade
Well-Known Member
Gotta say I love how thinking has evolved on this---from "Waymos limitations to make driving easier are hilariously bad and Tesla won't have these problems" to "It's fine if FSD limits itself the way Waymo does to making driving easier"
Going back all the way to the since departed KarenRei, FactChecking, and others in 2019-
Now 5 years later with Tesla still unable to reliably make unprotected lefts, the narrative is "eh that's fine, just make all rights- who ever said otherwise???"
Going back all the way to the since departed KarenRei, FactChecking, and others in 2019-
Uh, that's a rider report that directly supports my claim. What about it being usually a 50-100 foot walk, and sometimes 1000 feet or so (a third of a kilometer / fifth of a mile!), confused you? That's like a bus, not a taxi.
I'll repeat: Waymo does not go directly from source point to destination point, but only between specified points that are easier for it to drive between.
For example, Waymo can drive with (I'm certain) fewer disengagements per thousand miles. But that's because it is only capable of driving pre-designed routes that conform to significant preconditions. The disengagement rate -- which seems to be the primary comparison to determine who is on top -- would almost certainly make Tesla look like they are worse than anyone else.
Naturally, Tesla is not geo-fenced, much less restricted to certain routes with only designated stops, etc. IMO they are much farther along and a sane valuation would, in consequence, value $TSLA much higher than it currently does.
we don't know why Waymo is avoiding unprotected left turns:
Too little processing power of their vision NNs? Too little confidence in LIDAR input? Limited field of view of LIDAR systems, which makes 90 degree turns problematic? Or just (justified) caution?
Your assumption that Waymo not performing unprotected left turns cannot possibly be due to a technological limitation where Tesla's chip and data advantage might provide a break-through is unsupported.
This is why companies like GM, Waymo is struggling to make left turns, and I believe they do NOT make left turns as a result. Even with their geofenced tech their cars can only make right turns. The left turns are too complicated for them.
I live here in Chandler, this is Waymo central. I think the riders basically have to find the Waymo stops along the mall fronts, so not terribly convenient. And from the experiences I've seen out there, who wants to get stuck in a Waymo because of a Cone in the road, you can't exit the vehicle? It seems so restrictive to me, taking the longer routes to avoid certain intersections. I bet it sucks.
Now 5 years later with Tesla still unable to reliably make unprotected lefts, the narrative is "eh that's fine, just make all rights- who ever said otherwise???"