jerjozwik
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boy... the x had better have this feature otherwise you folks are going to be massively let down!
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I don't see what you're seeing.
In neither the photo nor the video am I able to see through either the A or B pillars on either side of the Model X shown. (The B pillar looks black, while the A pillar looks white.)
Let's make sure we're all talking about the same pillar:
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A "transparent" A pillar? Sorry, but that sounds like a joke to me. What material could Tesla use that would be transparent and sufficiently strong and not be incredibly expensive?
Volvo had this on a concept C30 where they used a truss structure in the A-pillar....... but ultimately they never produced this idea. I doubt that TESLA would do it either........
Looks like some sort of reflection in the windshield glass to me. You can see a similar glint in the middle of the windshield as the car accelerates away. Between 0:16 and 0:17 in the video.
Actually all I see in that first link is a really poorly fitting front passenger door, with the glass extending away from the vehicle body.
Yes, A-Pillar. In the video when you look through the windshield you see some odd images along the passenger side A-pillar, like perhaps a video display of what is outside the car. Perhaps they have some sort of flexible display panel mounted inside the car along the A-pillar to act as a vertical video screen to show some useful information. It is an area that is otherwise just wasted in your field of view. Perhaps it is there getting ready for the cameras to replace the real mirrors (if they are allowed to sell it that way), but for now the car still seems to have regular side view mirrors.
That foil was it, what I meant two days ago in the mule thread.
But i won't go with transparency or LCD-city.
It's more, like they are hiding the part, where we would suggest something that has to do with the side mirror replacement.
Thank you for the clarification, now I understand. I did some searching and it seems that the Jaguar/Land Rover feature is just a "concept " at this point. But it's an interesting one. Thanks.Obviously the ability to see through would only be from the inside out, not outside in, since it would be an outside camera image being displayed on the A pillar inside - not actually transparent material.
A camera and a screen embedded or projected into the A pillar.
To be absolutely clear, I am not talking about any kind of physical transparency or see-through material - merely video, as the name of the thread says.
Tin foil. Lots of uses from disguise to insulation to hats. ;-)
I don't think the screens in the A pillar would emulate "transparency". When looking outside the eyes have to focus 10m or more ahead and to see the image on the A pillar the eyes would have to refocus on the screen a mere meter away. So one can not blend outside with the screen image which would be necessary to make the pillar "disappear". One would see a blurred something instead of the pillar but not a continuous image (outside view/pillar screen mix)
I think it is much likelier that the A pillar screens will be showing a side mirror image. Maybe once legislation allows the actual physical side mirrors can just be discarded?
I think what you're seeing there is the a pillar airbags since the pillar cladding is not installed.
These pictures from a German mag just showed up and if you look closely at the first 2 pictures I think you'll agree with my statement.
http://www.autobild.de/bilder/erlkoenig-bildergalerie-die-autos-von-morgen-4553257.html#bild11
More interestingly however is the last picture in the series. The passenger side window has a huge gap when closed. Those are some seriously bad fitting body panels or they're still working out the fit and finish.
Before ANYONE else comments on "not seeing" the "transparent" A pillar you need to click on this link and watch the video...
Jaguar Land Rover 360 Virtual Urban Windscreen Video - YouTube
Hint: It's not ACTUALLY transparent. ;-)
And, it's not actually there. :smile:
Looks like a simulation to me. Additionally, there is the issue of parallax. The image would have to be presented to match the perspective from the driver's eyes. This is not the case in the video -- the view is conveniently tuned to the position of "our" perspective from the backseat. And in real life the challenge would be greater. The perspective will not be accurate for any passengers -- presenting a discordant and perhaps disagreeable imagery that doesn't match the outside view. Also drivers change position so the system would at a minimum need to take actual eye position into account. And since we have binocular vision, it will never be as good or as seamless as that Jaguar simulation.
Another thing to note about transparent/see-through issues is parallax. The image would have to be perfectly calibrated to the driver only and would look completely wrong to anyone else in the car. Sure they don't need to use it for safety, but aesthetically it would be annoying I would think.
Edit: nevermind, I see someone mentioned parallax a couple of posts up...