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Traveling Across the Sierras and through Yosemite: Planning Charging and Energy Usage

Discussion in 'California' started by Zorg, Mar 30, 2018.

  1. Zorg

    Zorg Active Member

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    Thinking about doing a road trip this June, if Tioga pass is open, and would love some feedback
    Bay area to Yosemite. Charge in groveland and in the park .
    Then would like to go across the pass to go visit Bodie.
    Go to south lake Tahoe.

    With an S85 and 4 people, is it even feasible?
     
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    I recommend you get the EVTO app or use the service at www.evtripplanner.com , they will help you plan your route and assess its feasibility.

    Search the California forum for “Yosemite” and you will find discussions about charging in Yosemite National Park. There are options, but they are limited.

    Also, get the Plugshare app.
     
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    Looks like you can make it--if you don't have enough juice to get to Bodie and Gardnerville (Topaz Lake) you could divert south to Mammoth to get some juice. Great food at the Cafe in the Topaz Lake Casino-one of the best Pastrami Sandwiches I have ever had.
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  4. Zorg

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    Right now the trip planning apps route me around Tioga pass since it's closed hence my request for actual feedback.
     
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    It’s definitely doable. As mentioned above, a small detour to the Mammoth supercharger is probably worth the peace of mind. Get a full charge there and then you’ve got plenty to make it to Gardnerville including a stop at Bodie.
     
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    Sweet. Now let's see if the pass is open mid June
     
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    Based on our snowpack right now and current 80 degree temps in the Yosemite foothills, I think your chances are pretty good.
     
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    If you use the link I provided above, just click the icon of the plug for Groveland and Bodie-It will route you via the closed Tioga pass.
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    Got it. Looks doable. Should be a fun trip.
     
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    Tioga Pass is usually the last pass to open for the summer in the central Sierra Nevada. In general, Monitor Pass is the first to reopen, followed by Ebbets Pass and then Sonora Pass.

    The opening of Tioga is a coordinated effort between the National Parks Service for the Yosemite portion and CalTrans for the road east of the park entrance. I know for a fact that after last year's winter there was a large avalanche concern around Olmstead Point, so even though the road had been plowed, they kept the highway closed until they were satisfied that there was no risk of avalanche.

    SR270 to Bodie is also closed for the winter, but I think it is usually opened in time for Memorial Day.

    A lot will have to do with any late season storms that may blow into California. Keep watching road conditions on the CalTrans website for current information as your departure date draws near. Sometimes the online newspaper for Mono County has the estimated reopening date for Tioga Pass.

    The others are correct that you will be able to make it from Groveland across Tioga Pass and into Lee Vining. You do have a nice ascent north of Lee Vining to Conway Summit, and then it is mostly downhill from there to Topaz. But you ought to be able to make it from Groveland to Topaz without stopping if you monitor your speed although I have not made that trip yet.

    I have crossed the Sierra westbound in our 85 and made it home comfortably to Fresno from Minden NV without stopping. But that leg is mostly a long, steady downhill, and I know the short cuts.
     
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    CPA's info is spot on!
    Here is an interactive map for road conditions, traffic cams and weather. One Stop Shop for Traveler Information
    Inside the park, there is a Tesla Destination Charger and a J1772 at the Ahwahnee (Majestic) Hotel. They are to the right of the hotel looking at the front door. Use the first parking lot entrance. PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You
    There is an additional J1772 by the Village Store. PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You
    Bridgeport has a Tesla Destination Charger and nearby a 14-50 PlugShare - Find Electric Vehicle Charging Locations Near You
     
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    [shameless plug for Lee Vining / Woah Nellie supercharger]

     
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    Sorry, not following. Is there a charger there?
     
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    No supercharger there yet, but many of us are hopeful/begging.
     
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    As @McManX notes, there is no Supercharger in Lee Vining and there are no EV charging options at all in that area as far as I know (none on Plugshare). It would be a great place for a Supercharger, or at least some Tesla HPWCs or generic J1772s at The Whoa Nellie Deli.
     
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    I would not necessarily rely upon the destination charger at the Ahwahnee/Majestic unless you were spending the night. They might be in use or they might be ICE'd and then you would be in a real pickle. Moreover, it is about 20 miles or so from the Crane Flat junction downhill to the Valley and the Ahwahnee/Majestic, and then another 20 miles uphill back to Crane Flat to head east along Tioga Road. I do not know how far the Groveland SC is from the Crane Flat Junction, but it would seem to me to be a needless waste of energy and time to head down to the Valley, wait around, and then head back out of the Valley.

    The speed limit for much of Tioga Road is 45, so it would seem to me that keeping your speed at or slightly below the limit will reduce the anxiety. The descent from Tioga Pass (~9,900 feet) to the junction with US395 (6,780 feet) is real short and real steep, so you ought to be able to replace several kWh back into the battery before heading north.
     
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    Thinking of staying at tenaya lodge to be right by the supercharger and solve the problem.
     
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    There is also The Groveland Hotel has a Tesla Destination Charger. This place provided juice for Teslas traveling through, prior to the Supercharger. I haven't stayed there Groveland Hotel 
     
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    I’ve used that Destination Charger before the Supercharger existed. I was not a hotel guest, and was charged $10, if I recall correctly. I was happy to pay it. But now with the Groveland Supercharger operational that is the obvious choice. And so far I have not seen reports of it being crowded.
     
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    Tenaya is nice but it's a sizable detour from route 120 with lots of elevation change (5,000 feet at Tenaya, down to 4,000 at Wawona, then back up to 6,500 near the glacier point road, down to ~4,000 feet in the valley, and back up to ~6,000 ft at Crane Flat before heading over Tioga). Still doable, but if your intent is to get over Tioga Pass, the Groveland supercharger is probably the best bet.
     
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