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AGL’s “Night Saver Energy Plan”
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Max Spaghetti
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Yes. It's the total kWh consumed in the half-hour, multiplied by two, which is the same as the average kW consumption over the half-hour.
Note that not everyone or even most people are on demand tariffs. There's a wide variety of distributor tariffs, including various phased-out tariffs that some customers might still be on - for home use, there's often flat tariffs, time-of-use tariffs, flat-with-demand and time-of-use-with-demand. EvoEnergy has proposed a tariff that includes an "inclining block" component which is where the first N kWh in each hour costs less than subsequent kWh.
You can see what tariffs your NEM distributor uses by searching for the distributor name and "tariff structure statement" (they have to be submitted to AEMO).
Max Spaghetti
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Just quoting myself to add to this: I found Powercor's tariff policy here.
2.3.1 Residential
We will assign the following customers onto a new two-rate time-of-use (ToU) tariff, with a peak period occurring between 3pm to 9pm local time all days and off peak applying at all other times (default ToU):
- New connections (i.e. new homes connecting to the network for the first time, not re-energisations)
- Customers who choose to upgrade from single-phase to three-phase supply
- Customers who choose to install or upgrade PV solar or batteries
- Customers on existing legacy1 or flexible tariffs
- Electric vehicles and/or electric vehicle chargers once an electric vehicle register or other formal means of identification is available.
No EV here! I was just boiling 3 kettles continuously from midnight until 7AM. Honestly
They'll assign you to that tariff, but if you check Figure 2 you will still have the option of going to single-rate or demand (their demand tariff has a single-rate for energy plus the demand charge). It does say that once they have access to some kind of EV register that EV owners won't be able to go to the single rate tariff though.
No EV here! I was just boiling 3 kettles continuously from midnight until 7AM. Honestly
Hmmm, 3 phase Gen3 wall charger here, how many kettles to make 11kW?
11/2.4 = 4.583333 kettles.Hmmm, 3 phase Gen3 wall charger here, how many kettles to make 11kW?
A few days ago Ovo reduced their FIT from 10c/kWh to 8c/kWh.
Also, when you look up the “EV Plan” on their website, it mentions the 8c/kWh rate 00:00-06:00, but when you click through to the detailed plan information, no mention is made of the EV rate… whereas it used to previously. The detailed plan information lodged with the Government is what you’d think the ultimate source of truth, so something odd is going on…
Also, when you look up the “EV Plan” on their website, it mentions the 8c/kWh rate 00:00-06:00, but when you click through to the detailed plan information, no mention is made of the EV rate… whereas it used to previously. The detailed plan information lodged with the Government is what you’d think the ultimate source of truth, so something odd is going on…
They've also terminated a lot of NSW customers, they've sneakily dropped the maximum solar system size from 30kW (as from June when many people signed up...) down to 5kW and are terminating people due to their systems being too big....
Well that doesn’t sound very “friendly”. I’ve been looking for a new provider for a while since I’m really getting jack of ████ and Ovo started to look promising… but the interest is rapidly waning.
I checked out Amber on the weekend - a wholesale pass-through provider. Their quote was I’d earn nearly $400 p.a. instead of paying around $1200 p.a. despite my tiny solar array. Presumably this is due to having the PW2 and them wanting to use it to earn FITs up to $14/kWh at times of grid stress.
Anyone on Amber here?
With the PW you have several options, you can set it to just use your batteries and only export when there's a really good FIT, or you can set it more aggressively and it will take advantage of arbitrage opportunities (the import tarriff on sunny days is usually at 0 or even negative- they pay you to use/charge for a few hours each day).
You can also manually control it whenever you want to override the algo and that sometimes gives even better earnings. Best FIT I've seen so far was a little over $7/KWH but I'm sure as we get into the middle of summer we'll start seeing some great opportunites both in negative usage tariffs and high FIT's.
You can also manually control it whenever you want to override the algo and that sometimes gives even better earnings. Best FIT I've seen so far was a little over $7/KWH but I'm sure as we get into the middle of summer we'll start seeing some great opportunites both in negative usage tariffs and high FIT's.
There's a new plan from OVO called the Free 3 Plan.
Basically free electricity every day from 11am to 2pm.
Other charges vary depending on your distributor...
Here's what I get for Sydney (Ausgrid) so you have Demand charges.
Basically free electricity every day from 11am to 2pm.
Other charges vary depending on your distributor...
Here's what I get for Sydney (Ausgrid) so you have Demand charges.
I use their App, it's got two 'smart shift' settings.
A more conservative one that kind of acts like the Tesla app, avoids using the grid as much as possible but will export from the powerwall when the FIT prices are really good. (I haven't really tried this one so can't comment too much on it)
The other option is the Earnings Optimiser, which will be more active seeking arbitrage opportunities etc and will discharge the battery up to twice a day maximum (very rare). The algo seems to get better over time but you have full manual control to override anything it is doing and do your own thing which can help get you even better profits.
I have a referral code that'll give you $30 bonus if you try it out, I'll DM you with it.
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