TSLA Market Action: 2018 Investor Roundtable

[Todd Burch]

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Im wondering if elon changed his medicine, since he is tweeting weird stuff lately

I think he's referring to this, for some reason:

Roko's basilisk - RationalWiki

 

[ggr]

I believe the reason TSLA is rising is because shorts are out of ammo and this is the natural slow rise TSLA would normally make when shorts can not suppress the price. Once the SP reaches high enough shorts will start getting a margin call unless someone starts loaning them shares that have already been shorted twice before.

Margin calls and ability to borrow shares are not directly related. Maybe you meant "recall"?

 

[kingjamez]

Curious move. Why not just exercise vested options with a ~$35/share strike price?

Even more curious in that he was tweeting about stock price all weekend. The whole twitter thing has been very strange lately.

 

[The Blue Owl]

Curious move. Why not just exercise vested options with a ~$35/share strike price?

To send a message?

 

[avoigt]

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Im wondering if elon changed his medicine, since he is tweeting weird stuff lately

Roko's basilisk is a thought experiment about the potential risks involved in developing artificial intelligence. The premise is that an all-powerful artificial intelligence from the future could retroactively punish those who did not help bring about its existence, including those who merely knew about the possible development of such a being.

 

[jhm]

looks like elon got some more stock today ?

Tesla - Statement of Changes of Beneficial Ownership

Dang, way to day trade, Elon!

 

[Richgoogol]

Curious move. Why not just exercise vested options with a ~$35/share strike price?

Umm..cuz he's got a point to prove? Duh

 

[Lbkmxp100d]

just announced. Elon just bought 33k shares of $TSLA

 

[j0hn]

2 others persons at tesla exercised stock options today , looks like a coordinated move if you ask me.

SEC Filings | Tesla, Inc.

 

[elasalle]

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Im wondering if elon changed his medicine, since he is tweeting weird stuff lately

I'm thinking EM hanging out with/ channeling Kanye too much ....

 

[brian45011]

To send a message?

Can you interpret the message?

 

[jelloslug]

You mean the one that's now over a month behind schedule? The one that was targeting 2500/week from March 25 - 31 (and still hasn't hit that target)? The one that still has 2.35B CapEx planned for this year, despite a negative 2.2B working capital? The one that was promised to be sold for 35k, but the cheapest option is 48k+?

I don't think it's a solid investment strategy to hang your hopes on Elon's promise of 5k/week. It looks like they are running out of cash well before that target.

Just to understand the bulls here: what do you think happens to TSLA if they can't hit 5k/week?

No, I mean the cars that were already produced but not delivered yet. Also, quit with the strawman arguments and the what ifs and stick with the facts.

 

[brian45011]

2 others persons at tesla exercised stock options today , looks like a coordinated move if you ask me.

SEC Filings | Tesla, Inc.

Those two exercises were of grants that expire in less than 5 weeks

 

[The Blue Owl]

Can you interpret the message?

I dunno, while CNBC, Bloomberg, the WSJ, and Warren Buffet say the company is in trouble, the CEO is buying shares on the open market. I suppose whatever the message is, it's non-negative.

 

[Richgoogol]

Can you interpret the message?

That he just got his tax refund and he's putting that money into good use

 

[ggr]

2 others persons at tesla exercised stock options today , looks like a coordinated move if you ask me.

SEC Filings | Tesla, Inc.

Their options expired next month, so they had to be exercised soon. Better to exercise at the lowest price you can, so as to owe less tax, if you intend to hold the actual shares. It is a bullish move. It indicates that they expect the stock price to rise.

 

[Zloy]

Reminds me the "message" from 2016. If I remember correctly, he bought about 10m worth of SCTY at around 17$ before acquisition.

 

[j0hn]

one point i see the bears making is that because musk bought shares there can't be a big public announcement that would send off the stock because it would constitute insider trading on his side.

is there any validity in that ?

 

[Wnuk]

So would it be his purchase that is driving the price action up today?

 

[jelloslug]

one point i see the bears making is that because musk bought shares there can't be a big public announcement that would send off the stock because it would constitute insider trading on his side.

is there any validity in that ?

A good bear will always find a negative side to anything that happens.